She Had Elon’s Baby. Then, the Leopards Ate Her Face.
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Okay, we have Mr. Fruity, Miss Onion, and Miss Former Fox News.
This is starting off great.
Hello, hello, and welcome back to A Bit Fruity. In February 2025, I made an episode of this podcast called The Incoherent Sexual Politics of the Right, which centered largely around a then 26-year-old conservative influencer named Ashley St. Clair. Ashley had spent years building an online audience of over 1 million conservatives who followed her for her hot takes on transgender people, building the wall, single mothers, the erosion of the traditional family, and all manner of right-wing slop. Sorry, Ashley. I gotta keep it real.
It's honest.
In 2021, Ashley wrote a transphobic children's book called Elephants Are Not Birds. You can kind of guess what that's about. Her conservative media career was ascendant. Last February, though, Ashley's life had just taken a wild turn. She'd announced to the world that she had just had a baby and that the father was Elon Musk. At the time, Elon had essentially ghosted her, and Ashley took to Twitter to plead, Elon, we've been trying to communicate for the past several days, and you have not responded. When are you going to reply to us? My guest on that episode, Moira Donegan, said that Ashley made what was called a patriarchal bargain. She offered her career and her body to a movement that promised her a secure place within its ranks.
But then it didn't.
How did Ashley St. Clair's conservative influencer career begin?
As Moira said, we can sort of assume that somebody in Ashley St. Claire's position thought that being with Elon Musk and by extension having a child with Elon Musk, you know, which we know that he very much wants, would grant her a degree of security and status. You know, she thought that she was making a deal. Right. And what we see with Elon Musk is that he immediately did not hold up his end of the bargain. Right. Like she sold her soul and didn't get paid for it.
In the years since then, things have taken turns that I personally did not expect. Ashley went completely offline to raise her child and avoid harassment from Elon's legion of fanboys, amidst a custody battle that she is still fighting. At the request of her harassers, Grok, Elon's generative AI toy, posted fake images of Ashley undressed in front of her children's school backpack. She's in court trying to get such images banned. And Ashley's also pivoted heavily in her politics, notably trying to make amends with the trans community, which we'll talk about at length today. She wrote on Twitter last week. Wait, actually, Ashley, do you want to read this?
I feel immense guilt for my role and even more guilt that the things I have said in the past may have caused my son's sister more pain. I don't really know how to make amends for many of these things, but I've been trying incredibly hard privately to learn and advocate for those within the trans community that I've hurt. I also haven't said much on this because I've gone back and forth over whether or not my voice would be helpful on the issue, since it will be framed as disingenuous or just turning because I'm scorned. Even this reply will become right-wing hysteria, but yeah, I am sorry. Let me know how I can help.
Today, we'll interrogate all of this together. I could not have imagined saying this one year ago, but welcome to the show, Ashley St. Clair.
Hi, thank you for having me too.
And to help us do this today, I'm also so excited to be joined by the one and only June, who you might know as Juniper or Onion Person or at Can't Ever Die or Pudding Person or any of the online names she's used to avoid Elon's continuous attempt to ban her from his website. On her Wikipedia page, she is labeled as being known for... Twitter shitposting, which is absolutely awesome. But she is also the host of the Kill the Computer podcast and the Ill-Conceived podcast. And she was the person that Ashley was writing to in that apology that Ashley just read to you. June, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really looking forward to this conversation.
I think first and foremost, before we get into anything, I think both of us have like a little bit of like preface questions for you, Ashley.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:40
2
How did Ashley St. Clair's conservative influencer career begin?
1:40–5:34
3
What was Ashley's reaction to becoming a single mother with Elon Musk's child?
5:34–10:59
4
How did Ashley's online presence change after her relationship with Elon Musk?
10:59–13:10
5
What does Ashley say about her past views on the LGBTQ+ community?
13:10–17:13
6
How has Ashley attempted to make amends with the trans community?
17:13–17:49
7
What challenges did Ashley face after publicly announcing her child?
17:49–22:37
8
How does Ashley view the influence of right-wing media on her career?
22:37–1:15:24