The Dating Advice Making Us Worse at Love with Relationship Expert Amy Chan
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Why does modern dating advice make us feel worse about love?
When I look at my favorite couples, yeah, and I and I have a few of them, like the couples that I like I want a relationship exactly like theirs, like my God. If I ask any of them what's your secret, they all say the same thing, which is we do the work. You know?
I think what you've explained when you talk about your the friends that you have that have great relationships. and the ups and downs and the working through it, you describe a great relationship. And I think a challenge that people have today is this mindset that they need to meet the perfect person first and then it'll be great. We need to meet people who are good enough and then we jump in with two feet and then through going through the stuff, it's the hard stuff when you're there for each other, that it goes from good to great.
Some of the dating advice that we follow might actually be making us worse at dating. Know your type, trust the spark, watch for red flags, never settle, protect your peace. And if someone isn't quite right, there are hundreds of other options waiting on an app. The problem is the person who's great on a first date isn't necessarily great at a relationship. Instant chemistry isn't a good sign. A red flag might just be an imperfection, and keeping our options open can make us pretty terrible at actually choosing someone. That's why I wanted to talk to Amy Chan. For nearly two decades, she looks at dating through a sort of psychology and neuroscience lens: why we're attracted to certain people and why relationships fall apart.
She's also the founder of Renew Breakup Boot Camp and the author of Unsingle. Her work makes the case that finding love isn't just about finding the right person, it's about getting better at the skill. Skills love requires. It turns out dating takes practice. And so does staying in love. If you like what you hear, please remember to subscribe. This is a bit of optimism.
This episode is proudly brought to you by SAP. Building trusting relationships with clients, it turns out, takes more than simply being an expert in your client's business. It actually is about empathy and being willing to step outside your own comfort zone. To learn more about SAP, the AI Cloud ERP for businesses of all size, head to SAP.com/slash grow. I'm always fascinated about people's careers and how we stumble into them. And I think you and I are very similar that this was not our chosen path. No. No. Uh I never imagined I'd been doing what I'm doing. I don't think you imagined that you'd be an old relationship expert. No. No, you didn't come from this world. No. Yeah. You didn't study it. And Uh for so many of us who stumble into these things, it's our personal experiences that sort of you know, the the solutions we find to the struggles that we're finding.
Um and so you started not by talking about how to people f you started by not trying to help people have relationships, but how to end them, right? Tell me about what happened to you.
Yeah.
That that unleashed or un or o o opened up an entirely new career, your accidental career.
Yeah. So I was in a relationship in Vancouver and I thought I was living the dream. And back then living the dream meant you date k to get married and then you have children and then The plan I had with this guy who ran a business was I would write on the side for fun and we would have kids and everything was set. Um and then a series of things happened. I lost my job, I moved in with him, and uh then uh he cheated on me with uh a former co-worker of mine. Um and it wasn't just a relationship that fell apart. So much of my identity and future was wrapped up in that relationship. Like
I am the girlfriend, I'm the f wife, I'm the mother.
I was, yeah, the perfect girlfriend training to be the perfect CEO's wife. Like that's what I thought was my dream and that shattered and I shattered. I it was dark. Like it was so hard and as an achiever, like there was nothing I could do to get out of that pain.
How how long were you guys together?
Uh two years.
Okay.
Yeah. Um So I I just I really struggled and um when I came out of that, which took quite a long time, like two and a half years, I was like, What happens to those people who don't have friends that will lend them a couch or know what books to read or have a therapist?
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
Why does modern dating advice make us feel worse about love?
0:00–4:46
2
How did Amy’s personal heartbreak lead to the creation of Renew Breakup Bootcamp?
4:46–9:25
3
What’s the difference between dating skills and relationship skills?
9:25–22:16
4
Why is “instant chemistry” a poor predictor of long‑term compatibility?
22:16–44:22
5
What are “situationships” and why do they keep people stuck?
44:22–50:14
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