“There’s no real secret to making the stuff we make. It’s not something where you have to be crazy talented. The thing is, you just spend a little bit longer on it than is reasonable. Most people would give up, and then you just keep going on it for three more hours making it better, doing more research, whatever the thing is that makes it better. Wherever most people would say, yea, that’s good enough, you just keep going for a little while longer. Not an eternity longer, just a bit longer.” -Nathan, quoting Alex Blumberg, Gimlet MediaBen and David agree to have the tables turned in a great interview by friend and longtime Acquired supporter Nathan Baschez, who was formerly the Head of Product at both Gimlet Media and Substack, and now writes the excellent Divinations newsletter on tech and business strategy. This episode originally came about because one of Nathan’s first articles at Divinations kindly focused on Ben and Acquired, which you can read in full here: https://divinations.substack.com/p/ben-gilbert-on-how-acquired-launchedThe core Divinations newsletter is free for everyone, but if you’d like special access to any of their paywalled content, Nathan shared this discount link for all Acquired LPs: https://divinations.substack.com/acquired . Check it out! Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinBe sure to follow the Acquired Podcast:Acquired.fm@AcquiredFM Show Links:Nathan BaschezThe Morning Show (AppleTV)Thinking Fast and Slow SummaryWillpower SummaryMarshmallow ExperimentHow I Built ThisStartupSerialInvest Like The BestThe No-Code MovementDiggnationJoe Rogan Show

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