Adam Carolla Show
Chris Hansen on Epstein, Predators & Woke Culture + Mamdani Appoints Transgender Rabbi
02 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What topics does Chris Hansen cover in this episode?
In this episode, Chris Hansen, Catch a Predator. He's back. Talk about everything. Good old JonBenet. Ramsey update as well. Lots of stuff. Also, Alicia Krauss has the news, and we'll do all that right after this. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from The Adam Carolla Show. Football season is heating up. Thanksgiving weekend is coming up with the NBA and college basketball seasons.
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From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show.
Adam's guest today, Chris Hansen. Plus the news with the Washington Examiner's Alicia Krause. And now, reminding Mayor Karen Bass to fill the reservoir underneath her tree.
Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get it on. Chris Hansen back in studio. Good to be here. Always a welcome guest. So much crime. So many hours in the day. And it's an obsession with it. Chris was telling me off the air about CrimeCon, which would be like Comic-Con. Well, there's every con now. Exactly. 10,000 people show up. Well, close to that.
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Chapter 2: How does Chris Hansen address the audience's interest in crime?
And it's taking forever and he's lost in traffic. If he's a doctor, how can he, you know, be so dense as not to find the place? Well, just as we're about to give up, And he's wearing his fleece that has the medical center where he practices medicine as a kidney specialist on his fleece. Walks in. He sees the undercover sheriff's employee posing as the girl.
Big hug, you know, and sits down on the couch and tries to explain to this alleged 15-year-old what he does for a living, which goes on and on and on until I decide to interrupt the conversation and bring him to the kitchen table. I was – I was bringing – I was speaking about on this show because how things have changed.
It reminded me with the Megyn Kelly stuff and Megyn Kelly was trying to do this sort of inelegantly worded – Weinstein thing she said barely Epstein sorry she said barely legal and I was sort of saying I think she's talking about that magazine barely legal and then I realized there was a magazine that was popular called barely legal from I looked it up 1993 was its inception but
We have – that would not fly today. You could not go to a 7-Eleven and buy a version of a magazine called Barely Legal today. With people of age posing as children. Right. I mean to me that's like AI child porn. Yes, yes, yes. And there's a reason why that's illegal. But the Epstein case, I mean, we are still – I was at – my wife and I went to an awards dinner for a group called Child USA.
And their job is to lobby in different states to make sure that the statute of limitations doesn't run out on victims like the victims of the Epstein case. And we're going to have some of these survivors and some of the people who represent them on my podcast. I have a seat with Chris Hansen coming up. But there is still – A lot we don't know about the Epstein case.
Well, what's your head on it as someone who knows the territory pretty well? I am – happily know nothing about this subject and I know that – When somebody gets sexually molested or abused or something, they end up taking it out sexually oftentimes. Sometimes, yeah. You oftentimes create another abuser.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Chris Hansen provide on the psychology of crime consumers?
Right, another generation of abuse. And that's the insidious part of this. But I don't know. The whole Epstein thing, I have no thoughts about. I really don't know anything. This is a guy. Based upon what I've seen, and I've followed it, I'm not by any means the Epstein expert.
That's up to Julie K. Brown and the team at the Miami Herald who broke all this stuff and got these survivors to speak out, which allowed the federal government, the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York, to prosecute these cases. The fact that they were able to get these people to speak out. They thought that they would never –
Get their say because this guy was so wealthy and so powerful and was so on the inside with all these people. I remember the 2008 case, he basically got a slap on the wrist. He had to do weekends in the county jail. And then he gets out and he's accepted by all these people. But this was a guy who had a propensity for youngish girls who would find them in –
vulnerable situations, Ghislaine Maxwell recruiting in some cases and others, and get them in and say, okay, you're just going to be a massage therapist, right? And then incrementally, in order to get excited, he kept going younger, younger, younger, younger. So the first rap on him was, okay, these girls were right on the edge of being legal, and they're being paid for their services.
It's grotesque, but maybe it wasn't A classic predator case. But it was. And it built to that because he had underage girls in there who were abused, who were not believed because a wealthy, powerful guy would say she's lying. Didn't happen. Well, he was connected as well. He was connected. Well, look at all the Prince Andrew stuff. Yeah, like what? I mean, he's toast now.
He thought he was going to get away with it. And that interview he did with the BBC... Several years ago, you're talking about? A couple years ago was disastrous. Yeah, well... I mean, talk about the height of arrogance. He made one point. One point in that is that... I don't know her. In the... What about that picture over there? Falklands Island, you know, campaign or whatever he was in.
He did explain... That he lost his ability to produce sweat. He couldn't sweat. Right. Which is an interesting thing. But I just thought the one chance he had was, look, if I could sweat, don't you think I'd be sweating right now? Because you've got a light and a camera in my face and we're sitting there talking about me being a pedophile, essentially. But... So – but that was years ago.
I mean that was eight or ten years ago or something now. Then he sort of hung around and now he's gone? Well, he's not in the Tower of London or something. He's not in the Tower of London, but he's living in the in-laws' quarters off property. It is funny when you have a job where essentially you just have to move quarters. Yeah. I lived in my dad's garage in North Hollywood.
That wasn't me shifting quarters per se. But so who do you think – you look – first off, you look at the flight logs and as a guy who's flown on Mark Garagas' plane two dozen times – sometimes with him and sometimes without him, I can tell you nobody says no to a free private flight. Well, I think that's how he lured some of these people into it.
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Chapter 4: How does Chris Hansen connect current events to historical cases?
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Colorful gifts. Yeah, I've heard a little Dr. Bowden or whatever, which I used to watch.
You ever watch that show? Yeah, sure. I've met him, Michael Bowden. The best. It was a series. Maybe it was on HBO back in the day. I'm trying to think. All the macabre, crazy stories. But the best was the sort of professor with the young bride. And she died young. And he exhumed her and brought her back. Oh, I remember this. And was like reanimating her as best he could.
Turned into a sex doll, essentially. And at some point, they found out what he was doing. And they went and buried her again, and he went and got her again. And they were just sort of matter-of-factly discussing what he was doing, but something with a silk sleeve in the vaginal tube or something like that. Like, it was as creepy as you could get. How do you even think that up?
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Chapter 5: What are the details of the Chandra Levy case?
Gary Condit. The part that I remember most is, speaking of DAs, I think there was a female or somebody. It could have been the mayor, could have been the DA, could have been whatever in D.C., but— So Chandra Levy is an intern. For the congressman. For the congressman. They were romantically linked. Liaison. And she goes jogging in the park and is never seen again.
And then at some point they find her body. Meanwhile, all attention turns toward the congressman saying, well, this guy had her taken out because he was married, family, career, blah, blah, blah. A lot to lose. The...
They at some point found out that there was a guy who was in jail for pulling somebody off a jogging trail at the same park and raping them and trying to kill them by the side of the jogging trail.
Chapter 6: How did the media handle the Chandra Levy case?
So that seemed like possibly that guy could have done it because that was his M.O. And then at some point there's a press conference and I've seen it, but I can't find it again. Right. I don't know if it's the D.A. or the mayor or something, but they came out. They went, don't even think about this guy that's in prison. That was the guy who. Who did it, though? Yeah, I know.
He was convicted of the crime, ultimately. I know. But the point is, is the DA and or the mayor had a presser to say, yes, there's a guy incarcerated currently who did the exact same thing to another female jogger. But don't even look that direction. Right. We're going after Gary Conant. And I was like, are you guys interested in law enforcement? How about justice here? Yes. And yes, it was.
And I think the guy may have been illegal, too, which probably didn't help them much. in whatever theme they're trying to put together. I don't know if that was the same issue then that it is now. No, it was. The Chandra Levy case was 97, 98. It was nearly not what it is now, but it still wasn't, whatever their theme was, it wasn't good. It wasn't good for them.
Chapter 7: What is the significance of the transgender rabbi appointment?
So they just sort of said, stay away and focus on this other thing. And, uh, It was a funny thing. I remember watching the presser like in real time and they're going, don't even think about this guy. And I'm like, I'm thinking about it because it seems like criminal math seems to add up. And in fact, ultimately, that was the guy, right? Yep. That was the guy.
And I don't know what happened to Condit, but I do know that. When this all went down was also right around 9-11. I think it was just before. Yeah, but they made a big whatever. He got swept right off the front page. It was a big story. Everything went away. It was a huge story. I was at Dateline at the time, and it was every night. Oh, him and Paula Poundstone. Right. Remember that one?
Yeah, I do. Right. They both had 9-11. 9-11, like, blew them off the front page. She had a thing, and I don't know exactly what her thing was, but child endangerment, something slumber parties. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gave me a look. I gave you the look, Chris, because this is a – that's right. That's your bailiwick. She had, like – it was like –
She got drunk and drove and the kids were in the car. That's right. I don't think it was a predatory thing. I think it was a child endangerment thing. There was that, but there was also a kind of a slumber party part of the discussion as well. Like it wasn't just, eh, she had a couple of pops at the Christmas party and they drove home. There was a sort of sexual component to it. What was...
Ingmar, let's see. Yeah, he's the killer. El Salvadorian. But anyway, what was the Paula Poundstone thing? Like, I know there was like some reckless endangerment thing. Like, basically, again, you get drunk and you drive and the kid's in the car, which is like, all right, you know. That doesn't have to be a career ender. But there was an other element to like adopted kids and had sleepovers.
There was like a kind of an element. I never covered that, but I remember what you're talking about. The drunk driving thing led to some other speculation about some other things. I remember that. Yeah, let's just see if we can figure that one out. June 2001, comedian Paula Poundstone was arrested for driving under the influence, DUI, with foster children in the car.
The charges led to a high-profile legal case. her temporary loss of custody to her children, I guess adopted, period in rehab and significant disruption of a career. Yeah, that'll do that. Details of the indict or sorry, the incident and the legal outcome. So was it just about driving? I remember just the driving stuff in terms of the reporting.
I remember seeing on it, but there was some speculation about some other stuff. And I, again, I never reported on it, so I can't be sure. Yes. Charges.
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Chapter 8: How does Hayley Williams address anti-trans fans at her concerts?
She was initially charged with, with driving under the influence and lewd acts upon a child. That's the part that, that I seem to remember. The lewd acts charges with Poundstones, she vehemently denied, were eventually dropped due to lack of evidence as part of a plea bargain. Yeah, the lewd acts part.
That was the part that seemed – that part seemed weird because if I got pulled over after drinking a few beers with my son in the car, I could see that part. But I wouldn't know where the lewd act part kicked in. Well, I assume at some point the children who were in the car, the way to get ice cream after she had been drinking, were interviewed without her present as would be the –
procedure and maybe something came up during that interview that raised suspicions about her relationship with those kids or some others, I would believe. And obviously whatever was said was never able to be proved. Yeah, I just remember literally The day her case – or she was sentenced or – the day – the news day was 9-11. Yeah. And therefore scrubbed from everyone's memory.
I mean we didn't do any story but 9-11 for four months. No? I mean that's all I did. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Where were you on 9-11? I was in Toronto. Talk about a story that got buried for a while. I was on a story in Toronto. There was a Canadian airliner that –
had a fuel leak, and unbeknownst to the crew, they just saw a weight imbalance in the fuel tanks, and they turned the valve to put some fuel in the other tank, and it ended up bleeding the whole plane of any fuel. It was a Canadian airline, and there they are. Because they bled it into the leaking tank. They bled it into the leaking tank.
So they're flying from Toronto to Lisbon, Portugal, and they're 30,000 feet in the air with no power. So they pop the RAT, which is the... The generator. And he circles it around and around and around and makes a dead stick landing at the Joint Use Air Force Base on the island of Tresera. Dead stick is no power. No power. Right. nary a scratch. Really?
But it was this amazing story that we were doing for Dateline. So we're in Toronto, and we had one more day of shooting. So they're gliding at 30,000 feet. They're gliding at 30,000 feet for 30 minutes before he puts his gun. What size is that? It was an A320, I think. So a big commercial craft. All right. Or a decent-sized commercial. People are praying.
And I interviewed a lot of the passengers on there. And this pilot, this captain, did a phenomenal job. I mean, he saved all these people's lives. And we interviewed all the people who were involved in it. But That day was 9-11, and everybody, the rest of the crew had gone out on the town. And for whatever reason, I said, nah, you guys go ahead. So I'm up early.
I go for a run, and I'm drinking my coffee in the hotel room, and I'm watching the Today Show, and I see the video of the smoke pouring out of the World Trade Center. And Matt Lauer says, hey, something's happened here, and we're going to figure it out, and we'll get right back to you. Commercial break. I called the office. I said, what the hell's going on? He said, well, we think a –
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