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Dinesh D’Souza + Ed Asner (Carolla Classics)

31 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of Corolla Classics?

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Welcome to Corolla Classics. I'm your host, Superfan Giovanni. This is the podcast where we put the best moments, highlights, and fan-selected clips from all 16 years of The Adam Corolla Show. We have a companion podcast titled Corolla Classics. You can find the ad-free archives exclusively available through Podcast 1. Plus. Check it out and sign up.

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And if you'd like to obtain the ad-free archives of The Adam Corolla Show, The Adam and Dr. Drew Show, and get exclusive access to the brand new podcast, Beat It Out, Make sure to check out Adam Carolla's Substack, adamcarolla.substack.com. And if you'd like to request a clip, please email us, classics at adamcarolla.com. All right, let's get to the clips.

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Coming up first, we have Adam Carolla's show, 1341, featuring Dinesh D'Souza. This one's from 2014.

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Dinesh D'Souza, good to see you, my friend. Hey, good to be on the show. I'm a big fan of yours. I agree with, I think, everything that comes out of your mouth, except for when you're eating and you start getting passionate and a piece of broccoli comes out, and I disagree with that. But I think most of the things you say, I agree with.

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I certainly saw you on Marr, and I saw you a couple of weeks ago. talking about Islam and so on, arguing with Arianna Huffington and things like that. And I thought, this guy's got it going on. Yeah, you know, with Bill Maher, he's all over the place. And it's always fun for me to be on. I don't know if you know, but the last time I was on earlier, he was on Politically Incorrect.

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We were on that show right after 9-11. You were on the episode. Episode that he that he got into trouble. Yeah. With or on. Yeah. And somehow for 10 years, he got the he sort of bore a grudge because he sort of felt like I got him fired because the topic came up on that show about whether the terrorists were cowards. You remember Bush had said they're cowards. Right.

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And so he popped the question and I said, no, I don't think they're cowards, man. I mean, to tell some guy to fly into a wall, go to sure death, even if you think there's a bunch of virgins waiting for you, it takes a lot of guts. So these might be really bad guys, but they're not wimps. No, I agree with you.

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And I saw the episode and I saw the episode where you returned to Marr after all those years, you know, barred from Marr. But the... And I agree with you. We do way too much of this person who called 911 as a hero and this person who flew the thing into the plane as a coward. Like we swing really far in different directions. And I think without putting words in your mouth, all we want is clarity.

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Meaning, these are the worst people on the planet, it's just coward doesn't quite fit the description of them. Exactly.

Chapter 2: Who is Dinesh D'Souza and what are his views?

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In other words, they're, you know, evil people aren't necessarily cowards. I wouldn't, yes, you wouldn't call... The pilots, the Japanese pilots that flew the planes into the aircraft carriers at the end of World War II, the kamikaze pilots, you wouldn't call them cowards. Exactly.

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So part of it is, and particularly after 9-11, there was so much confusion about trying to understand who's behind all this. And as you know, ever since then, there's been a whole effort to detach the motives of these terrorists from the religion they practice, namely Islam.

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And that was the point of agreement between Bill and me on the recent show is we're like, listen, they saw themselves as being pious Muslims. Now, you can say not all Muslims think that way, but it's certainly true that a great motive for contemporary terrorism is radical Islam.

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But here's what I don't understand about the left in general, and the right is guilty of it to some degree, but I feel like the left... does a ton of this where you say, we have a problem. And that problem could be anything from the inner cities and the kids and the graduation rates to the Islam terrorists and whatever it is.

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And basically what you're saying is, is this house is infested with termites. And they're saying not every wall in this house has termites. And you say, yeah, I know, but there is a problem. And they're saying not every termite. Not every stud in this house has termites. So you can't – and you're going, yes, not every inner-city child is not graduating high school.

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Not every Muslim is a – but there's a higher percentage, and thus it needs to be focused on and addressed. You keep saying not every – I mean, when Arianna Huffington looked at you and said, what she is saying is that every terrorist, every Muslim is a terrorist. And you said, no, that's not what I said. I didn't –

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How could we ever begin to address the problem when the dentist says you have two cavities and you go, well, I have 26 teeth that don't have cavities. Not every tooth has a cavity. Well, don't you just want to focus on the cavity and see for you if we can fix the tooth? You know, I think some of this got started, if I'm going to be honest about it, during the civil rights movement.

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And the reason I say that is there was a great campaign against stereotypes. Sure. Now, what's a stereotype but a generalization? Now, in the past, there were people who had very nasty generalizations about groups. But the way to fight them was to show that they're false or that they're being wrongly applied. What really happened is there became a prejudice in our culture against generalizing.

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Yes. And so, you know, literally you'd say things like, you know, men are taller than women. And people say, well, that's a stereotype. There's a lot of women in WNBA. Right. Who are taller. There's a lady who plays the center for the Los Angeles Sparks who's taller than my neighbor, Fred. Exactly. Yeah, okay, understood. But now can we get back to the truth for a second? Exactly.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of discussing terrorism and Islam?

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Right. He doesn't realize all the things behind him that have enabled this to happen. So I think what happens in our society is inequality generates envy and people think, what the hell? I can do what that guy is doing. Yeah, but you're not doing it. I you know what I what I think is going on to a large extent in our new ish society, the one that seems to have cropped up.

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sucks because I was poor my entire life and I always thought wouldn't it be great to have money and now that I have money it sucks to have money in the sense that nobody looks up to you anymore you're now the enemy it's people wanting to know when you're going to pay your fair share and all that shit and don't get me wrong people who are listening I'd rather have money than not have money and you shouldn't feel sorry for me or weep a tear for me but what I'm saying is I didn't know that

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When I started paying the bills and paying the taxes and taking care of business, that society would crop up, look at me as the one percenter, and make me the enemy. Yeah, now this is something I think that is kind of new.

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837.688 - 838.851 Adam Carolla

Oh, it's definitely new.

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It's very new. Because look... You look at the federal government's income tax revenues. Now, the top 1%, you mentioned the 1%, the top 1% pays 33% of all the federal taxes in America. 33%. The next 9% pays the next 33%. So two-thirds of all the federal tax revenues are coming from 10% of the earning population. The bottom 50% of America pays nothing.

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So, you know, our revolution was no taxation without representation. But weirdly, we live in a society where half the population has representation without taxation. Well, we'll play a few clips from the movie. The fair share thing crops up, which makes me want to take a...

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cucumber peeler and just peel every ounce of my skin off when I hear that people point at folks and go, when are you going to start paying your fair share? And the answer is, first off, do you really want to explore fair and share? Because I'll tell you what. Whoever, Obama or Diane Warren, whoever, Elizabeth Warren, Diane Warren writes songs.

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Elizabeth Warren, I'll tell you what, I would love to pay my fair share. Let's sit down and figure out what my share is. And then when we pencil out my fair share, I'm going to save so much goddamn money. Well, you know, the funny thing, Warren has this big speech where she goes, you know, you moved your goods to market on roads the rest of us. The rest of us?

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You mean that guy's not paying for the roads? He's paying for the roads, too. It's not the rest of you. Everybody pays and everybody uses the roads. We're going to hear that in one second. First, DraftKings, because I've got to pay some bills. My listeners, winning like crazy. CrazyMoneyDraftKings.com, America's favorite one-day fancy baseball site. Do not miss this.

Chapter 4: How does Dinesh D'Souza view America's role in the world?

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We really appreciate you. You're the best people in America. Thank you for doing what you're doing because you're enabling these other guys to ride along while you pull. Instead, what Obama does, he goes to the people in the bandwagon. He goes, you are the most morally wonderful people in America. And then he goes to the guys who are pulling, and he goes, you're greedy. You're selfish.

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You're materialistic. You better pull harder. So what's he doing? Demoralizing the productive people in our economy and giving you the idea, which, sure, then you get the idea, well, maybe I should be riding in the bandwagon. Life's a little more pleasant over there. I, you know, I was trying to think about this as I was watching your documentary.

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And I was thinking about the fact of I have said, look, I don't like all the bullying talk. I don't. And people like you're for bullying. And I'm like, no, I'm not for bullying. I'm just tired of turning everyone into a victim of bullying. And then I realized that's what I don't like about it. I don't like everybody being a victim. I don't like it, not for me, I don't like it for them.

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I don't want, like, you ask me, was I bullied? I guess. I don't know. I never thought about it. I didn't think of it as being bullied. I thought of it as junior high and high school. I thought of it as people you get along with and some people you don't get along with. I thought it was, yeah, you have weird hair, then you're called Brillo Head. I understood it. And you wear you wear glasses.

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You were called four eyes. I understood. But I never looked at it and no one ever looked at it as being bullied. Even even people got into fights and fistfights. It's still I got into a fight, but it wasn't I'm being victimized.

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And I hate that idea that somehow our elected officials are there to convince everybody that they're being victimized, or at least the lion's share of the people that voted for them, that they're getting screwed. They're going to continue being screwed. And by the way, they're the ones who are going to unscrew them or protect them from getting screwed, except for magically that never happens.

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I even hated the hope and change thing. I didn't like, first off, we're Americans. We don't hope for shit. We go do stuff. You know, hoping is buying a lottery ticket and sitting home and praying and rubbing your rosary beads. We don't hope for anything and change. How much change do we need to do?

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The other thing is, you know, this is the old American spirit, which is when things turn against you, which sometimes happens. And in fairness, capitalism, there was an economist, Schumpeter, who called it a gale of creative destruction, meaning industries are turned topsy-turvy. At one time, 70% of Americans worked on farms.

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And then as technology got better and now look at one guy with headphones and a tractor and he's farming 500 acres. So you don't need all these guys on the farm. So what's the solution? Get your butt off the farm. You got to go do something else. It's not easy because you've been doing it for generations and your way of life is gone and all that.

Chapter 5: What happened to the individual who fled to Canada?

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The guy bit down on the cyanide cap capsule tablet and killed himself. And then he went to Canada and fled. We couldn't get him back for like eight years. That I never, that I don't understand either. Like, no, we're not giving them back to you. Of all the countries that should be cool with giving people back and forth, Canada, they're right there. The border's barely there. I would also argue.

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Chapter 6: Why is Canada reluctant to return certain criminals?

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Indistinguishable. Canada, are you running short on South Korean serial killers? And you need one? What is it, a fucking gin rummy, Han? Sorry. It's on our fantasy league. We're running super low on Korean serial killers. Or could you just send the fucking serial killer back to us so we could pay for his room and board? I love that idea.

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Like, hey, can we have the guy that does the serial killing in the cabin and the dismembering? What guy? Not so fast. We'd like him to rot in our prison for about eight years and a whole bunch of paperwork, and then we'll give him back the deal.

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6213.94 - 6222.428 Superfan Giovanni

What's in it for them? For anyone. I mean, I understand certain countries probably enjoy sticking it to other countries, like traditional treaties and stuff like that.

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6222.488 - 6224.65 Dinesh D'Souza

But why certain countries?

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Let me say this. Tell me where you guys come down on this. There's a lot of this in life.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of pride in legal disputes?

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What you don't understand. You see, it comes down to a matter of pride. I was trying to explain this whole patent troll thing to somebody. And I said, look, we're not going to settle with them. We can't settle with them. We made a commitment to not settle with them. So they will get nothing from us. We will go to trial. But... There's not enough there to go to trial with.

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There's just nothing there. It's not worth it for them to go to trial. So what are we going to do? And then I said to somebody, it's a matter of pride. And then I realized... Pride for you or them? Well, for us, it's a matter of justice. We cannot settle with them because we've made a commitment to the podcasting community and taken people's money. So there will be no settling with them.

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For them, it's a matter of pride. But then I think, pride over what? Frivolous lawsuits? What do you mean your pride is you buy patents and you sue people? What's your fucking pride? Canada, where's your pride?

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Chapter 8: How does the discussion of autism relate to societal perceptions?

6305.172 - 6306.113 Dinesh D'Souza

What are you hanging on to?

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You have a Korean serial killer. What's your pride? I know you have a, hey, slow down. You don't tell us what to do. That's what it is. You don't tell. But what are we telling you to do? We're not saying put your index finger up your ass and cry for us while you wear a fucking pointed hat. We're saying we need the serial killer back so we can...

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6323.954 - 6325.876 Dinesh D'Souza

It's awfully specific what we're not saying.

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We want to mete out a little of our justice, but it's a matter of pride for these countries. It's a lot of pride for a lot of people, although what's the pride over? If you think about it.

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6335.328 - 6337.411 Superfan Giovanni

Yeah, what are you gaining? It's a pyrrhic victory.

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It's you. Here's what it is. You're not going to tell us what to do.

6342.277 - 6348.645 Superfan Giovanni

Well, if we negotiate with terrorists or whatever it is, if we negotiate with fill in the blank, then it's a slippery slope.

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Canada, it's not a matter of you looking. Look. weak. It's the craziest thing in the world. I do think a lot of it's just overcompensation for knowing we could crush them anytime we wanted to crush them from a military standpoint, but they're just like, well, we're putting our foot down. Anyway, we should send over a shitload of acid rain. All right. So Bernardo is engaged to be engaged.

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And that's great news. And again, thank you, Canada, for being so evolved. And hopefully you can consummate this relationship. And the parents of all his young victims can think about that and read about it in the newspaper.

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