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Neil deGrasse Tyson and Adam Carolla Explore the Cosmos and Talk Construction

09 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.132 - 8.582 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Neil deGrasse Tyson is my one-on-one guest. Very enlightening conversation with him. Alicia Krauss has the news, and we'll do all that right after this.

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17.433 - 42.118 Adam Carolla

From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is The Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, Neil deGrasse Tyson. Plus the news with the Washington Examiner's Alicia Krauss. And now, a man who also has an asteroid named after him, Adam Carolla.

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42.138 - 51.59 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the choice of the mandate. Get it on. Thanks for listening. Thanks for sharing. Alicia Krauss is in here, and she's got the news.

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I sure do. Want to hear some?

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54.486 - 56.268 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Nah. Not at all?

56.288 - 66.181 Unknown

Yeah. So did you hear about how John Mayer and Zach Bryan sold out Michigan, like University of Michigan, Ann Arbor's whole stadium?

66.321 - 67.883 Neil deGrasse Tyson

John Mayer and Bryan?

68.424 - 73.169 Unknown

Yeah. Wasn't it Zach Bryan? I thought it was him. They did a duet together, sold it out.

73.189 - 74.271 Neil deGrasse Tyson

I don't know who Bryan is.

Chapter 2: What recent news is causing controversy?

124.923 - 131.252 Neil deGrasse Tyson

confusing to me as to who sells the most, but okay. Okay, so he's a really popular guy.

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A lot of his songs, like on streamers, have over a billion listens, which is kind of crazy. Well, now he's upsetting some people on the right side of the aisle and has even had people within the Trump administration respond to him because he has this new song called Bad News. Let me read you a lyric and see what you think. Mm-hmm.

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And ice is going to come bust down your door to try to build a house no one builds no more. But I got a telephone. Kids are scared and all alone. The boss stopped bumping. The rocks stopped rolling. The middle finger's rising and it won't stop showing. I got some bad news. The fading of the red, white, and blue.

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So it's a kind of anti-ice thing.

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171.489 - 173.712 Unknown

Yeah, like America is the worst.

173.742 - 180.211 Neil deGrasse Tyson

What's the metaphor about the house that won't be built anymore? Is he talking about labor?

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That was where my mind went.

182.795 - 189.545 Neil deGrasse Tyson

What rhymes with stucco? Hey, bucko, you remove these Mexicans, you get no stucco. Write that shit down.

190.286 - 192.629 Adam Carolla

They'll use fucko in the explicit version.

Chapter 3: How is Zach Bryan's new song perceived?

358.181 - 388.299 Neil deGrasse Tyson

My dad told me, he said, see those two fellas hugging on the corner? Ain't nothing wrong with that. Two, three, four. Sit down. According to Joe Biden and Bruce Springsteen, every single thing happened at their kitchen table. Like my dad had come home and took his hat off. Sat at that kitchen table. He said, Joey, you're on your own. Two, three, four. And that's every story.

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388.359 - 391.382 Adam Carolla

I've noticed every one of his stories is in standard time.

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391.818 - 396.263 Neil deGrasse Tyson

You know the great thing about Joe Biden? He doesn't do a waltz for a story ever.

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Joe Biden's stories were also like the basketball court, too.

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I learned.

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It was the basketball court or the kitchen table.

401.308 - 420.289 Neil deGrasse Tyson

The kitchen table is where he learned. And when he got called Joey, that meant, uh-oh, some wisdom was going to be imparted. His dad ran one of the biggest Chevrolet dealerships in the county. And that's why when he got married at 23, he got a brand new Corvette for his wedding.

420.269 - 421.17 Unknown

Wrong guy.

421.31 - 427.036 Neil deGrasse Tyson

For wedding gift. Right. He got a brand new Corvette. So, I don't know. Was his dad?

Chapter 4: What insights does Neil deGrasse Tyson provide?

687.684 - 690.647 Unknown

Yeah, there we go. Couldn't say this in Saudi Arabia.

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691.067 - 693.931 Neil deGrasse Tyson

No, you could not.

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All right. This is kind of interesting. And my church has experienced this firsthand. According to the Barna Group, who's out in Ventura County, they're like a Christian polling company. They say that Gen Z men are returning to church in surprising numbers in the faith resurgence. I read another article about this this week, too. I think it was in Christianity Today where they were like.

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Is it really a rise in young men going to church or is it a decrease in young women leaving the church? And it's actually a little bit of both. Gen Z men are attending slightly more often than millennial men even, marking a generational reversal from years gone by. According to Daniel Copeland over at the Barna Group, he's the vice president of research over there.

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He says, quote, this data represents good news for church leaders and adds to the picture that spiritual renewal is shaping Gen Z and millennials today.

740.607 - 744.071 Neil deGrasse Tyson

What is the Gen Z age? I've rejected all these titles.

744.091 - 749.997 Unknown

So I'm a grandma millennial and I'm 39. So Gen Z, I think, is like 38 and younger.

750.037 - 754.662 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Right. And so they're going in. Women aren't going in the same.

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And whether or not it's affiliated, Gen Z men are also kind of coming more to the right as well as Gen Z women more to the left.

Chapter 5: What educational paths should we consider for hands-on skills versus theoretical knowledge?

3119.271 - 3136.039 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Yeah, no, I was not. That'd be different. But they had a score. School for people who were turned on to this stuff. And for the same, I'm saying they need another school for people who are interested in turning wrenches versus astronomy. In Brooklyn, there's a school just off the edge of the Brooklyn Bridge.

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3136.419 - 3159.669 Neil deGrasse Tyson

It's a high school, and it's called the Westinghouse, of the famous Westinghouse, Westinghouse Vocational High School. But the building is from like the 1940s or something. So I don't think people think that way anymore in terms of setting up the educational path. But I agree with you. The problem comes about is if somebody else says – You're not qualified for this.

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Chapter 6: How do personal experiences shape our appreciation for practical skills?

3159.849 - 3181.133 Neil deGrasse Tyson

We're going to make you do that. And then they're interrupting what could be your own ambitions. So if you said you want to turn a wrench and that's your own decision, then you should have that freedom to do so. But I don't want somebody else telling you you should be turning a wrench if that's not what you want to do. Well, life will tell you. If you're aware of your own life.

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3181.153 - 3203.911 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Because everyone I knew wanted to start... play quarterback for the Rams, but they never did because life tells you, is what I'm saying. And so you have to be aware of when life is telling you things, but it's not always other people. If I took other people's advice for what I should do with my life, oh my gosh, I don't know where I'd be. No, but there was a test for you to pass.

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3203.971 - 3224.829 Neil deGrasse Tyson

So if you said, I want to be Merlin and study the cosmos, and you went in and got an F on this test, then someone would hand you a wrench. And you might not like it, but you didn't pass the test is what I'm saying. I'll tell you this. In seventh grade and in eighth and ninth grade, I had shop. And that's back when they segregated boys and girls, right?

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3224.869 - 3251.891 Neil deGrasse Tyson

So the boys had wood shop and metal shop and the girls had, that's how old I am, girls had home ec and they learned how to wash and sew and all of this sort of thing. But those years in shop, They affect me today. Anytime I confront an electrical board or sheet metal or my toolbox, it comes to me from those times.

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3252.552 - 3274.143 Neil deGrasse Tyson

And so I have a deep appreciation for what it means to use your hands to build stuff and to fix stuff. And so... Had I been a wrench guy, those would have been important seeds for me to then go in that path. And you're doing cool things with your wrenches. I mean, you're a car guy, you know.

3274.163 - 3275.725 Unknown

I am. That's good.

3275.745 - 3306.876 Neil deGrasse Tyson

No, I'm a carpenter. And you used to build, yeah, you built stuff. Yeah, I like it. I was kind of... traumatized by my shop teachers oh because they were some of the scariest meanest dudes on the planet and they seem to they seem to not like the kids oh okay we're angry i mean we we you know mr gage and uh mr martin and and they were all angry dudes and i and you look back on it and you go

3307.885 - 3312.029 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Well, maybe that was through the eyes of a 14-year-old animal crawler.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of using metal studs in construction?

3312.049 - 3335.933 Neil deGrasse Tyson

I just thought, you know, maybe they were trying to help or something. But they weren't. And I have proof. I have proof. Well, not all teachers are good teachers. No, no. I tried them all. Some are good. Some are bad. But the shop teachers were mean and angry at my school. They were all just dudes. I do not believe you needed a teaching credential to do it.

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3335.974 - 3362.057 Neil deGrasse Tyson

You just needed to work in the trades for 10 years. There weren't people who were drawn out of college to go and shape young minds and hearts. They went on to a construction site. At some point, they hurt their back, and now they're teaching me, and they're pissed. I'm just saying, with all my science training, I like knowing the difference between a wood screw and a sheet metal screw.

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3362.037 - 3395.441 Neil deGrasse Tyson

You know, this... Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Oh, no, look. It's a field of expertise, and we're having a problem with that in this country and maybe worldwide. People need... You know, I would talk to Dr. Drew about it all the time. They look at a three-minute plumbing video and they think they're plumbing experts. Yeah, but what I'm saying is... You have a certain... way of looking at yourself.

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3395.842 - 3416.589 Neil deGrasse Tyson

And, and I, I would say to Dr. Drew all the time, what if you didn't, you weren't a doctor, you didn't know this, you don't have that field of expertise, you don't specialize in that. You just kind of, you know what I mean? And, and I have that as a journeyman carpenter and it keeps you kind of grounded. It helps you think. And it also gives you some place in the universe.

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3416.629 - 3443.314 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Like you go, I have a skill. I know what this thing is. And, and there's a sort of security in it. Emotional security. Yes, that's what I mean. And I talked to a lot of people I realized don't have any field of expertise, and they seem a little unhinged or something. Insecure, I guess, is what it would be. People need something that other people can come to them for advice on.

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Yes, and they need everybody. Here's everyone's fantasy. You're on the plane. Okay, here's the two fantasies. Are you ready? One is you're on the plane.

Chapter 8: How does curiosity influence our understanding of science and passion?

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Somebody in first class has a heart attack. And the flight attendant gets on the intercom and goes, is there a doctor on this flight? And people's fantasy is, yes, I stand up. That is definitely a fantasy.

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I stand up and walk from the back of the plane.

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3469.838 - 3492.553 Neil deGrasse Tyson

You want to be the hero. Right. Except for I sit there and shut up and eat my trail mix because I'm not. Right. Right. Then the second fantasy is you go to a beautiful cocktail party with a bunch of good looking, well-heeled people. And there's a great Steinway grand piano there. And at some point, the hostess of the party goes, could we get Neil?

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3492.874 - 3516.592 Neil deGrasse Tyson

Could we tempt Neil just to come up and play a couple of songs? I really wasn't prepared for that. And then he sits down and some Chopin comes rolling off his fingers. That's our fantasy. But what is that? Well, that's just you going, I know something. And as a carpenter, when I go to someone's house and they go, hey, man, this cupboard door is coming off. And I go, oh, yeah, I can do that.

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3517.012 - 3543.405 Neil deGrasse Tyson

It feels good. But then imagine going through life. And never experiencing that. Never feeling needed. It would feel a little empty and I would be a little insecure. Yeah. So my version of that playing the Steinway is if there's a party and they have a patio and it gets dark and it's not cloudy. And I generally... move with my lasers. I have some lasers I can point out.

3543.425 - 3561.992 Neil deGrasse Tyson

I'm the director of a planetarium. You gotta be able to point stuff out with a laser. So I say, oh, by the way, the stars are out. Anyone interested? And everyone takes their drinks and they go out to the patio, dim the house lights, and I point out the constellations that planted in the sky or whatever. And it works with the laser? You need a powerful enough laser. Yeah, I have access.

3561.972 - 3581.172 Neil deGrasse Tyson

How far does the laser reach? So it's how far it looks like it reaches when you just stand there with it. But if you're on the other end of that and it's coming towards you, it'll go 60 miles. 60 miles? Oh, yeah, easily. Wow, so you're up there. Yeah, and of course you have to watch for planes. You don't want them.

3581.192 - 3609.119 Neil deGrasse Tyson

But that's my version of that, and I do feel loved, and I feel needed or wanted at least. They don't need that, but they love them. No, it's everyone... Listen, if it is a universal sort of fantasy, then it's something that people need and want. And to go through life... And I realize we're creating a lot of these people. That's insightful. They live in a digital world. They sit in a cubicle.

3609.159 - 3630.919 Neil deGrasse Tyson

They do data entry. The problem is they look at a three-minute video, and now they believe they're an expert. And that's their access to this. I mean, there is that, but there's also just the jobs. There's so many sort of jobs in the middle where they go, I just enter data into a computer. And then if you're at a party, no one ever says, Cheryl, we have a computer here. We need some data entry.

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