I talk to Matt Giovanisci about suddenly quitting his podcast, email newsletter, and a few other things. It’s a long one! Buckle up! Contact me. Ask Questions! Send me an email here: [email protected] Leave a voicemail: (406) 813-0613 Join My Email list 00:00 Welcome and Setup 00:58 Money Lab Origins 02:19 Rebrand to Business Casual 04:21 Podcast as Hobby 05:18 Trying to Improve 09:56 Quality vs Growth 15:10 Workload and Rewards 16:53 Chasing Views and Validation 24:53 Why Quit Abruptly 26:01 Focus 10 and Swim University 30:09 Mental Load and Identity 33:34 Culture Shift Hustle vs Lifestyle 34:29 FIRE After 2008 34:57 Finance Content Shift 35:45 Crypto and Day Trading 37:05 Insecure About Advice 39:29 Lifestyle Business Lane 42:04 Monetizing Without Selling 44:25 Refocus on Swim University 44:52 Garage Pacing and AI 46:29 Work Hours and Boredom 48:53 Learning Leisure Hobbies 49:39 External Goals Drive You 55:38 Three Pillars Problem 59:03 Boats Aren’t Leisure 01:01:22 Health as Productivity 01:06:15 One Thing and Freedom 01:07:54 Batching for Pure Time 01:08:43 YouTube Revenue Reality 01:10:37 Selling for Independence 01:12:55 Work Purpose and Volunteering 01:14:00 FIRE Scarcity Mindset 01:18:14 Leisure Without Guilt 01:21:50 Deleting the Podcast 01:23:08 Staying in the Pool Lane 01:26:32 Why Quit Business Content 01:28:32 Guitars and Amp Talk 01:33:02 Headphone Levels Wrap

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