"It turned out to be a very big win for the Cats" - Picks and Cam discuss the Patrick Dangerfield trade in 2015 - Tuesday 29th September
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How did Geelong acquire Patrick Dangerfield in 2015?
We'll just move straight on. Hey, let's discuss our bargain deal for bargain car rentals. Oh, what have you got today? More service, more value, more than you bargained for. Patrick Dangerfield. I didn't realise this was such a bargain. In 2015. So, of course, he was a restricted free agent, right? So, they could have taken the compensation, but they did. I think Geelong acted in good faith. and said, look, let's have a bit of a conversation about how we can make this work for you and for us. Yep. So Geelong obviously received Patrick Dangerfield, who then went on to win the Brownlow medal, and pick 50, which they then on-traded for the big ruckman at the Suns, Zach Smith. Yep. All right.
One of the cats give up, though.
Who was Dean Gore, and what did Adelaide give up in the trade?
Dean Gore. I don't remember Dean Gore. He must have been a highly rated player at Geelong. He must have been a high draft pick, was he? Pick
nine.
Yeah, but they gave the player first.
It's all part of it. He's put the player first. I would suggest.
Their first pick, which was nine, and their second pick, which was 28. 28. They took. Dean Gore never played a game. What number was he when he was drafted, though, Don, if you can have a look? So I
think if
– So
he
was picked 55.
Why was Dean Gore considered a small part of the Dangerfield deal?
So he'd had one season on the list.
Like, I mean, I think they just gave it little steak knives.
Well, he's a steak knife. There's no
doubt about that. So the pick nine and 28.
Obviously Adelaide must have liked him at the time.
Well, they might. But they also got a higher draft pick because Adelaide, had they just accepted it, would have been a little lower than nine. They got that. They turned that into now an Australian, Wayne Miller, although he's taken a little while. He's had a bunch of injuries as well. And then pick 28, which they picked up Troy Menzel. So they most certainly in the – way of the off season got more than what they would have if they had have just accepted the compensation. Yeah.
How did Adelaide use the draft picks it received for Patrick Dangerfield?
But it is still incredibly unders considering Patrick Dangerfield was in the top two or three players in the game and then won a Brownlow medal that next year. No doubt about that. I mean, the Cats
have won that trade by a thousand
metres. That's the free agency conversation. A kilometre. Yeah, absolutely. And that's a conversation we sit in right now, right? Like the free agency, which Kel Toomey spoke about it yesterday. It's a moving feast at different times. People have different views on it in different ways. But What did Hawthorne get for losing Buddy? Pick 19. Pick 19, yeah. What did they do with
pick 19?
Why is Geelong considered the clear winner of the Dangerfield trade?
I can't even think.
I know, but you know what it didn't do? Stop them from winning another two
flags. Yeah, they did. They
won
the next two.
And I mean, we're using the superstars here as an analogy, but Ablett leaves. Flag.
Yep. Same, yep. Very next year,
yep. Buddy leaves.
Flag.
Flag.
Next two years,
yep. Dangerfield leaves, right? No flag.
What happens when AFL clubs lose superstars through free agency?
No, but they made a grand final. They made a grand final. No flag. No, I agree. I agree, but they made a grand final, so they gave themselves an opportunity to win a premiership. Yeah, well, in 2016, they won a final.
Yep.
So that was still- Oh, they beat the dogs? That was still around. No, that was 2015. That was with danger. Oh, it was too. Yeah. But yeah, so I mean- It was the Talia one. That was. Again, I didn't think we were allowed to contractually talk about that on the radio show involving you.
Can clubs stay successful after stars like Buddy Franklin or Gary Ablett leave?
Oh, thank you. But that's a bargain deal for bargain car rentals. Yep. More service, more value, more than you bargained for. Well, it is a bargain deal. Yeah, it is. Well, but anytime- I'm a firm believer that when you lose a superstar through free agency, you do not – it doesn't matter what deal you do. It doesn't matter what – and I'm not saying it stuffs the club. I'm simply saying it doesn't matter what deal you do. You're taking unders. Like Port Adelaide, doesn't matter how and what they get to come into the club, they're not getting to what Zach Butters is actually worth. I don't think so. Jeremy Cameron, same thing.
With the Cameron deal, we might revisit that.
How did the Jeremy Cameron trade change the value of AFL draft picks?
Let's
do that tomorrow. Yeah, we will. Because he, I think it was three first round.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
How did Geelong acquire Patrick Dangerfield in 2015?
0:00–0:37
2
Who was Dean Gore, and what did Adelaide give up in the trade?
0:37–1:10
3
Why was Dean Gore considered a small part of the Dangerfield deal?
1:10–1:50
4
How did Adelaide use the draft picks it received for Patrick Dangerfield?
1:50–2:25
5
Why is Geelong considered the clear winner of the Dangerfield trade?
2:25–2:47
6
What happens when AFL clubs lose superstars through free agency?
2:47–3:12
7
Can clubs stay successful after stars like Buddy Franklin or Gary Ablett leave?
3:12–3:48
8
How did the Jeremy Cameron trade change the value of AFL draft picks?
3:48–4:18
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