Surprise! It’s an early edition of After Work Drinks this week because let’s be honest, there’s nothing we’re going to want to talk about more than the Michael Jackson documentary (and shocking allegations of abuse in Leaving Neverland). Unlike R. Kelly’s ‘Ignition’, it feels futile and impossible to try and ban or remove Michael Jackson’s music so, if we believe Wade and James, how do we move forward? And why, after all we’ve learned from #MeToo, are we still seeing the credibility of victims be viciously undermined? Plus, on a lighter note, we have a few good watches, reads and listens to ingest and Zadie Smith’s tip for productivity. This episode deals with heavy issues including childhood sexual abuse. While we made the conscious decision not to discuss the allegations in any graphic detail, the topic may be distressing for some listeners. If you feel you need help, the below resources are helpful:Lifeline: 13 11 141800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732ChildWise: 1300 244 539Recommendations:Calypso by David Sedarishttps://www.booktopia.com.au/calypso-david-sedaris/prod9781408707821.htmlThe White Album by Joan Didionhttps://www.booktopia.com.au/the-white-album-joan-didion/prod9780374532079.htmlRussian Doll on Netflixhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80211627 Exposed: The Case of Keli Lane on ABChttps://iview.abc.net.au/show/exposed-the-case-of-keli-lane Esther Perel in the New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel ‘Where Should We Begin?’ by Esther Perel season three on Audiblehttps://www.audible.com.au/pd/Esther-Perels-Where-Should-We-Begin-The-Arc-of-Love-Audiobook/B07H7P2DPR Difficult Women by Roxanne Gayhttps://www.hachette.com.au/roxane-gay/difficult-womenThe Cut on Tuesdays https://www.gimletmedia.com/the-cut-on-tuesdaysThe OA - Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80044950Zadie Smith on The Toure Showhttps://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/toure-show/e/53184632Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed and HBOhttps://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/leaving-neverland/2019/3/leaving-neverland--part-2 'Reckoning with the Real Michael Jackson' The New York Times' The Dailyhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/podcasts/the-daily/michael-jackson-abuse-leaving-neverland.htmlThe Michael Jackson accusers: ‘The abuse didn’t feel strange, because he was like a god’ by Hadley Freeman in The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/04/the-michael-jackson-accusers-the-abuse-didnt-feel-strange-because-he-was-like-a-god‘Why Oprah’s ‘Neverland’ special was so important’ by Taylor Weatherby for Billboardhttps://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8501577/why-oprahs-leaving-neverland-special-was-so-important Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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