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AI Pod by Wes Roth and Dylan Curious | Artificial Intelligence News and Interviews With Experts

AI’s White‑Collar Shake‑Up | David Shapiro’s Deep Dive on Post‑Labor Economics

18 Jul 2025

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Automation is speeding toward a “post‑labor” world, and it may arrive sooner than anyone expects. Author‑researcher David Shapiro joins Dylan and Wes to test whether the AI boom is hype or a true turning point, explore what happens if 40 % of jobs vanish, and map the real timelines for farm bots, factory robots, and billions of humanoids. They tackle energy abundance, AI safety, China‑US competition, brain‑computer interfaces, and the shift from wage income to property dividends—arguing that the future hinges on democratic ownership rather than runaway doom.

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