Showrunner Kat Viken on how to actually use an LLM, lawyer Kelsey Farish on why your boss is pushing you to use AI, why the AI ethics debate is dead

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In episode 31, you'll learn how and how not to talk to an LLM. Kelsey and Kat discuss the AI morality argument vs the business and economics argument. Kat argues for knowledge and action on legislation rather than noise online, and debate Hollywood studios' hidden AI use. We delve into what makes an art process valid or invalid, and what this means for the lives of creatives going forward.

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