Dr. Mehmet Oz on Fixing American Healthcare + Fraud | Live from Davos

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Previously titled “Healthcare Needs Builders, Not Bureaucrats: Dr. Mehmet Oz Live from Davos” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 6, 2026

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

David Sacks 0:00
All right, everybody. Welcome back. It's All In at Davos.

What insights does Dr. Oz share about Trump's vision for healthcare?

David Sacks 0:03
My bestie, David Sachs, is here.
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:04
We're having a great time. We're here. Can you guys catch this in the background? Oh, my God. It's amazing. It's stunning. This is the Davos experience. It looks real. I know.

How is AI transforming self-directed healthcare?

Chamath Palihapitiya 0:13
Well, it kind of looks like a green screen from here because this is so picturesque. It's literally like a postcard. It's not a green screen. It's a real deal.
David Sacks 0:20
And we'll look over the ledge here and what you'll see is all of the Virtue Signaling, ESG, DEI executives. And it's emanating from this entire area. And they put solar over every single building here. None of it's plugged in. It's just for aesthetics. We're really excited, David and I, to do a bunch of interviews here. Wow. Today, we've got a great one for you, and we're going to talk about health, and we're going to talk about the healthcare system with none other than Dr. Mehmet Oz. You're the administrator now for CMS. You've gone from being America's doctor, dare I say, to being a civil servant like my friend, David Sacks. Why did you choose, really, height of your power's career to
Dr. Mehmet Oz 1:03
go into public service like this so i'm in the change business you guys are as well and if you're in the change business and the project you're pursuing is not making a significant change then you want to move on to something else that could make the impact you desire and especially in healthcare we don't have the luxury of fooling around for years of our lives pursuing interests that don't result in meaningfully changing the quality of life but also the opportunity that the american people have And so I thought I loved being a TV host, did it for 13 years.

What are the implications of GLP-1s on healthcare affordability?

Dr. Mehmet Oz 1:35
I love practicing surgery, which I've done my whole life till recently. This is the best job I've ever had. And it's the best job I've had because of the people that I get to work with, but also because you truly do get to make the change that I desire. I think a lot of folks, the reason they watch the podcast is they they want to change stuff, too. And I encourage everybody to, you know, take some big swings and you'll break things once in a while.

What challenges are posed by the medical fraud crisis?

Dr. Mehmet Oz 1:58
But if you want to be able to change meaningfully the the infrastructure, whatever is bothering you, you got to go at a full speed. And this administration offers us a unique opportunity to do that.
David Sacks 2:10
It is interesting, David. You were used to going at a pretty fast pace as well. And then I think our expectation was, hey, you get into public service, it's going to be about consensus building, and it's going to take a lot of time. Say what you will about Trump. Some people might not agree with every policy. But he ships. He's like a founder who ships and ships product fast.

How is California addressing fraud and accountability in healthcare?

David Sacks 2:30
That's also been your experience.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:32
He's hard to keep up with. I mean, he moves incredibly fast and it makes him really fun to work for because he wants to get things done. Every day he wants to get things done.
David Sacks 2:41
There's a sense of urgency.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:42
Yeah. And, you know, you'll be in a meeting with the president in the Oval Office and you'll tell him about a problem. His first instinct is to pick up the phone and call and fix it right then and there. Yeah. And he does that meeting after meeting, hour after hour, day after day, week after week. And when you compound that desire to get things done and he acts on it right there, it has a huge impact.
David Sacks 3:02
And he seems to get great pleasure in bringing together, especially in this administration, which I think is distinctly different than the first.

What is the connection between immigration and addiction issues?

David Sacks 3:11
First administration, he was new to politics and he brought in a lot of career politicians that I think maybe people told him were the right people this time. He has explicitly gone and looked for people with expertise who are proven winners in the field, yourself included.
Dr. Mehmet Oz 3:26
He wants us to carry the water. This is, I think, across

How can we ensure healthcare access for all Americans?

Dr. Mehmet Oz 3:30
different parts of the administration. He wants individuals that don't have to rely on the president to tell the story all the time. Because so much of the narrative that is reflected in the media is just completely off.

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