How to love the Grateful Dead

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What is this episode’s goal: how can someone learn to love the Grateful Dead?

Emily Kopp 0:01
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Aisha Harris 0:04
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Robin Hilton 0:11
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Aisha Harris 0:18
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Robin Hilton 0:24
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Hi.
Robin Hilton 0:59
So, on this week's show, we're going to talk about one of the biggest blind spots I think I've ever had when it comes to music. I've got a lot of blind spots. But this is one that I think is somewhere near the top of my list. Maybe my biggest blind spot. The Grateful Dead. Let's get into it, man. Let's do it. This is a band that I know is hugely important to both of you.
Isabella Gomez Sarmiento 1:26
Guilty as charged.
Robin Hilton 1:27
Yep. Felix, I don't need to ask you how you came to The Grateful Dead. I have a pretty good idea. Well, it's probably a little different than you think. But I mean, I ignored them for years. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. You weren't just from right out the gate when you were a teenager?
Aisha Harris 1:42
No.
Robin Hilton 1:43
I'm a late bloomer because I was into other stuff, like jazz, specifically Santana. I was old, which is adjacent. I don't know why. And it wasn't until I saw Garcia and Bob Weir do a benefit performance with Santana that I actually paid attention to what Garcia was playing, and I'm like, oh, my God. What year was this? In the 80s. 80s, you started getting into it. How about you, Issa? I mean, you're like a totally different generation. I mean, Jerry Garcia had been dead for years before you were even born.
Isabella Gomez Sarmiento 2:16
That's correct. I would call myself a Bob Weir dead and company disciple. I was in high school. I was finishing high school when they did the 50th anniversary Fair the Well show. So it was like suddenly the Grateful Dead was very much back. in pop culture, and then they announced Dead & Company. I started seeing them. I started following them on the road. I just got really, really locked in while I was in college, and I've stayed a huge fan of the band ever since.
Robin Hilton 2:43
Well, they're a band that, you know, unlike a lot of bands that I just don't care for, they're a band that like, I feel like I should love this band. And it's always felt like a failing of mine that I've just not been able to get into them. I mean, all my friends love them. My whole friend circle, there is literally no reason why I should not have been into this band. I was texting with a friend sometime in January, I was like, hey, what are you doing? And he said, we're kind of having a wake for Bob. And there's a friend in our circle of friends named Bob. It's like, Robin, how could you not know? I was like, who are you talking about? He's like, Bob, we're... But, like, they... It was... It hit them so hard that, like, they all got together and they were just having a night where we were like, we're just remembering Bob tonight, man.
Robin Hilton 3:30
I remember when Garcia died, I was at home. You know, free internet, 95. August 9th, 95. And I was sitting at home. I think I heard it on MTV. Kurt Loder, I think. You know, it was that kind of thing. And... There was a knock on my door, and it was a buddy of mine. We're both huge Los Lobos fans, but also Grateful Dead fans.

How did the hosts and guests first get into the Grateful Dead and why does it matter?

Robin Hilton 3:51
He's like, bro, Garcia's dead. We just sat there and had a beer and just had our own little two-person wake about how bummed we were. I remember thinking at least he lived a good long life. In my mind, he was as old as dirt, and now I'm much older than he was. He was like 53? Yeah.
Isabella Gomez Sarmiento 4:09
He was really young, yeah.

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