“I Met The Head Of The Entire UFO Program!” - Grant Cameron

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What did Grant Cameron learn from Eric Walker about the secret “control group” and elite societies?

Jesse Michels 0:00
Whenever I feel like I'm getting close to the truth, your name always shows up. It's always well Grant Cameron put that out. Grant Cameron knows about this. I've
Grant Cameron 0:09
liked so many documents and I'm saying, is anybody ever just leak a document?
Jesse Michels 0:15
You're one of the few people who've had direct interactions with Eric Walker who's been rumored to be on this sort of Majestic Twelve committee. What was that interaction like?
Grant Cameron 0:25
Oh, that was wild. He said at one point he's they're talking about the MJ twelve committee and he cuts the guy off. He said, Look, me ask you a question. When you know about ESP. And the guy had no answer. He said, look, unless you understand about ESP and how it works, you will not be taken in by the control group. When he said control group, what do you think he meant? He described them as a group of elites. If you were invited into their group, I would know. The secret societies are the guys with the money. That the people who went to the Cosmos Club were the insiders. Hillary was really into this thing. They talked about the seven year plan. They were gonna promote this stuff. And John Peresta was actually saying, ask her about the aliens.
Grant Cameron 1:03
And she was gonna go on Kimmel and she went on there and he didn't ask her the UFO question. No way. How do you know that? It's in the Peresta emails. Oh, and then she If you listen to Jim Semivan, he says just because you got bodies and crafts doesn't mean you know what's going on. He said all the size stuff is right. Everything. I wrote the whole book on UFO sky pods where I write thirty six people that came to me and all said I've flown the craft.

How does the conversation shift to the mysterious “Weird Desk” at the CIA and the “Audrey” phone messages?

Grant Cameron 1:25
And the first Really? Well yeah.
Jesse Michels 1:28
Do you believe we have crash retrieval
Grant Cameron 1:30
and reverse engineering programs? So Ron Pendolfi run the weird desk. What's the weird desk? The weird desk is supposedly the place at the CIA where all the weird stuff comes in, all the paranormal stuff. It's like the X file. Yeah, the really weird stuff. So you think Ron Pendolfi exists at the top of the UFO pyramid from a government perspective? He's been at the CI since eighty-four, he's rumored to brief the presidents, and he says, quote, people have always wondered what it's like to go into the next world. There's been a breakthrough. He looks over at this John guy. Next time John goes to the desert, a number of us here will go into the next world and come back again. And I went, whoa. Ignition sequence five.
Unknown 2:11
How is this possible? Nothing too additional about that. Their existence cannot longer be denied.
Jesse Michels 2:30
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Jesse Michels 3:55
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