Life in Mobland Chicago

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Don Wildman 1:29
Welcome to downtown Chicago, Illinois, circa 1925. Oh, quick, get down. You okay there? Got all your pieces? Sure you do. Come on, let's move. We're in Chicago's notorious 19th Ward, over here on the west side towards Taylor and Morgan. Little Italy, they call it. These days, controlled by the Jenner Brothers. There's six of those guys, all actual brothers. One of them, they say, is legitimately insane. But this is the Prohibition era, and the Jenner Brothers guarantee the flow of bootleg whiskey for Johnny Torrio, Chicago's boss since 1920. Lately, though, things have been getting a little nasty. And by year's end, three of those brothers will be dead, Torrio gone, and his front guy, a New Yorker named Al Capone, will be well on his way to becoming America's most famous gangster, moving against Bugs Moran and Jaime Weiss, who both want a bigger piece of the action.
Don Wildman 2:28
Speaking of action, we got more company.
Dr. Islam Issa 2:31
Duck, quick!
Don Wildman 2:34
Hi folks, welcome to American History Hit. I'm Don Wildman. It's always tempting to mythologize history, to pump stories up out of proportion, casting real events in a glamorous glow. If there is one realm of history especially prone to this, it's Chicago of the 1920s and the famous mobsters who illicitly ran the place. Or did they? What was Chicago really all about back in the Torah days of Tommy Gunn hitmen and politicians on the take? Did the average Chicagoan experience the terror of extreme violence? Was Chicago mobland a fact of ordinary life? Well, we got a guy for this. Paul DeRica is the director of exhibitions at the Chicago History Museum and a scholar, writer, and guide to all things Chicago history and culture.
Don Wildman 3:25
Hey, Paul, great to meet you. Thanks for having me. The annals tell of a town twisted by corruption and held hostage by hoodlums. Really? And if so, how did this come to pass? I'm talking about the 1920s and the 30s in Chicago.
Paul Durica 3:47
Well, I would say that was true, but only if you considered your great-grandmother a hoodlum. What I mean is when we think about the Prohibition era, not just in the United States, but across Chicago, we tend to focus on figures like Al Capone. He still remains probably one of the most famous people associated with the city of Chicago, like Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey. But when you really kind of look at this history and what was going on on the street level, it's a little bit more complicated. And In terms of people violating the Volstead Act, that is, you know, making beer and spirits and selling them and so forth, you had the organized crime element, but you also had a lot of everyday Chicagoans as scofflaws as well.
Paul Durica 4:36
In fact, we get that during this era.
Don Wildman 4:38
But the reputation is that criminal organizations really kind of sliced and diced that town up and ran it.

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