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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Acquitted Uvalde Officer Speaks:  He Has “No Regrets”

23 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What led to the acquittal of the Uvalde officer?

0.031 - 3.596 Amy Robach

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30.558 - 37.632 Questlove

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39.4 - 47.467 Amy Robach

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48.148 - 50.17 Unknown

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50.19 - 58.217 Amy Robach

Okay, great, great, great way to start. Maybe you will cry. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or a girl? Oh my God.

58.237 - 59.738 Unknown

All the time. That's so funny. I know.

59.918 - 65.803 Amy Robach

So I try to butch it up for kids so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up. It's basically like Doris Day.

Chapter 2: How did Adrian Gonzales feel about his actions during the shooting?

507.85 - 531.546 Amy Robach

the anger to be directed at Officer Gonzalez. And to a degree, I understand that because he was, he is the name you now associate. The truth is, as journalists, we have shied away from and really stopped putting out the shooter's name because we don't want to glorify. We don't want to incentivize any troubled person to say, oh, well, if I go out this way, my name will live in infamy. I

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531.526 - 542.725 Amy Robach

I was on the scene, covered this shooting for days. I cannot tell you the name of the shooter because we don't say it, but I can tell you the name of officer Adrian Gonzalez. That's interesting.

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543.286 - 563.702 T.J. Holmes

I mean, it's, yeah, I mean, this is, I don't know the chief's name. Maybe I'll start to remember that name later. He's going to be tried as well. The former Uvalde school police chief, but Adrian Gonzalez will have to, I think he, I'm not sure which is worse, the personal hell or the public hell.

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564.243 - 585.037 T.J. Holmes

Because listening to him today, he got emotional, yes, at the end, talking about the personal toll, not being able to go home and all that stuff you'll mention in a moment. But, Robes, you have got to... From a personal standpoint, it's got to be difficult to live with what he has to live with. It didn't come off that way in the interview.

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585.157 - 609.643 Amy Robach

See, I hear you. And that was the problem with the I don't regret it part. I'm curious what you think. You mentioned he was flanked by both of his lawyers, right? He has to be concerned about civil lawsuits. Obviously. So does he sort of to protect himself legally or even maybe financially, does he have to double down and say, I don't regret it because I followed an order?

609.978 - 616.966 T.J. Holmes

Can I ask, isn't there something, it demnifies police officers for being sued civilly?

617.407 - 628.24 Amy Robach

Oh, you know what, that very well, I know there is some sort of civil thing in the works, but I don't know. There's a civil lawsuit, but I don't know if it's against the police department itself. You're right, maybe not individual officers.

628.26 - 654.063 T.J. Holmes

Yeah, I don't know if he can. I don't know what he's facing moving forward, other than for the rest of his life, being the public face in the public... He is the one. This is the guy who folks say responds. So, again, my heart goes out to him for what he has to do with personally and publicly. But listening to him today was tough to hear. Like, I didn't hear... pain for the kids.

654.764 - 656.926 T.J. Holmes

I heard it for what he is dealing with now.

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