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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

(UPDATE) Au Pair Affair Murder Trial: Defense Coming Together

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What significant updates are shared about the Au Pair Affair trial?

0.031 - 1.453 Amy Robach

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Chapter 2: What is the defense's strategy in questioning the investigators?

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30.558 - 37.615 Questlove

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39.569 - 42.633 Dr. Jesse Mills

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42.933 - 46.938 Amy Robach

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Chapter 3: How did the timing of the trial impact the proceedings?

47.258 - 65.645 Dr. Jesse Mills

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65.865 - 71.483 Dr. Jesse Mills

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Chapter 4: What role did the 4-year-old daughter play in the investigation?

71.817 - 79.909 Amy Robach

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82.633 - 89.683 Ross Matthews

Okay, great, great, great way to start. Maybe you will cry. Ross Matthews. You know what kids always say to me? Are you a boy or a girl?

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Oh my God.

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Chapter 5: What is the importance of the catfishing theory in this case?

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All the time. That's so funny. I know.

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92.347 - 94.67 Ross Matthews

So I try to butch it up for kids so they're not confused.

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94.69 - 98.235 Amy Robach

Yeah, but you're butching it up. It's basically like Doris Day.

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98.436 - 100.018 Ross Matthews

Right? No, I turn into Bea Arthur.

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Chapter 6: How did the defense challenge the credibility of key witnesses?

99.998 - 107.267 Amy Robach

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107.287 - 112.133 Questlove

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Chapter 7: What were the implications of the digital evidence presented?

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151.754 - 178.977 T.J. Holmes

Hey there, folks. It is Thursday evening on the East Coast here on January 22nd. We're just hopping on because we got some significant updates in the so-called Au Pair Affair Murders Trial, including an update about one witness who was on the stand three times in this trial already, and another major update having to do with the timing of the trial.

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178.957 - 193.376 T.J. Holmes

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. I'll start with something you just you just said to me. You said it looks like the defense's case is coming together, but it looks like they might not have much of a case.

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193.476 - 204.874 Amy Robach

Right. We see the blueprint because I will say yesterday when the defense began and even this morning. We were kind of scratching our heads, like, where is this going?

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Chapter 8: How does the defense aim to create doubt in the jury's mind?

205.015 - 216.54 Amy Robach

What have they accomplished? They've called lots of witnesses up, and yet it's unclear to me what the strategy is or what they're trying to get out of these witnesses because it wasn't effective.

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216.52 - 221.304 T.J. Holmes

Wasn't it several witnesses as well? It seems like we're just getting going. And then he told them no more questions.

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221.324 - 228.911 Amy Robach

Yeah, it would be like you'd think he was just winding up his question. Then he'd say no further questions. Say what? It was confusing.

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229.091 - 246.527 T.J. Holmes

And every witness today felt like for the defense that's now putting on their case, felt like there was potential for a Perry Mason moment. And we never actually got one. However, we did get several significant updates. And we did. This was maybe, I would argue, Robes, besides the.

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246.507 - 270.642 T.J. Holmes

au pair's testimony this was one of the most significant days of testimony we have seen because we see what the defense is trying to lay out can we start though with the update about the timing this has everything to do with the weather right now the judge is really trying to move this thing the judge is super concerned and keeps talking about this massive snowstorm that is blanketing much of the country but certainly going to target the mid-atlantic and the northeast with a

270.622 - 291.481 Amy Robach

Bunch of snow. And so, yes, this is near the Washington, D.C. area, Fairfax, Virginia. So she was really pushing when they wrapped today both sides, the defense saying, how many more witnesses do you have? And he said three at least. And the prosecution said they want to call two more back up to the stand. And you could see the judge or you could hear the judge was frustrated.

291.501 - 312.054 Amy Robach

She said, I'd really like to wrap up testimony by Friday because we may be out of court for five days now. And I'd hate to break up the evidence. I'd love to have the evidence done, have a potential break based on this storm and then come back and then do closing arguments and give jury instructions and have them start deliberating. So she didn't.

312.475 - 320.17 Amy Robach

But but basically the defense attorney said, I'll do my best. But he was like, I can't promise you that I'm going to be done tomorrow.

320.15 - 339.203 T.J. Holmes

And you know he would like the extra time. Yes. He would like the extra time. He's been a little shaken, we should say, by the prosecution with a lot of their objections. And you mentioned the judge seemed a little frustrated. Even in her frustration, I want to give her credit. She is like the sweetest lady. It's like a teacher.

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