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Masochism & The First Lie: Why We Punish Ourselves with Dr. Loren Weiner

11 Nov 2025

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In this riveting session, Cynthia Marks and Dr. Loren Weiner unpack masochism as a deep, often invisible style of living driven by unconscious guilt—the felt sense that we “deserve” to suffer or deny ourselves good things. Loren traces the guilt back to Dr. Bernard Bail’s imprint theory: the fetus unconsciously takes on the mother’s unprocessed pain and wrongly concludes, “it’s my fault,” a “first lie” that later fuels self-sabotage, procrastination, and staying in punishing relationships. They show how dreams reveal this pattern—from lost purses and missed deadlines to violent head blows—mapping the original psychic “blast” and the mind’s attempt to wall it off. Cynthia shares personal dreams (like a book titled “Life Is Torture”) that capture resistance to joy and the pull toward old operating manuals. Loren explains how this inner guilt scales up into culture—why groups, institutions, even nations repeatedly choose policies that make everyone suffer. The antidote isn’t moralizing but honest dreamwork, daily self-questioning, and claiming the birthright to love and pleasure. Start inside, they insist; shift the inner operating system and the outer systems begin to change.   00:00 — What Is Masochism? 07:20 — The First Lie 14:40 — Head-Blow Dreams 22:00 — Working the Pattern 29:20 — “Life Is Torture” 36:40 — Self to Society 44:00 — Allowing Love & Pleasure 50:49 — Closing Invitation

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