Amir Levine (on attachment theory)
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Lily Padman. Hi. Hi. We have the author of an incredibly popular book.
Yes.
Read by millions.
Millions indeed.
His first book was Attached. Amir Levine. He is a psychiatrist, a neuroscientist, and of course a best-selling author. And he has a new book out, kind of answering as he talks about Attached, outline these different attachment styles, and then people were naturally curious, can I change mine? And so his new book is to address that exact question, Secure, The Revolutionary Guide to Creating a Secure Life. Please enjoy Dr. Amir Levine. This episode of Armchair Expert is presented by Apple TV, the new U.S. home of Formula One. Starting March 7th, you can watch complete all-access live coverage of every Grand Prix, including preseason. practice, qualifying, and sprints all in one place. Watch every race live only on Apple TV.
How does Amir Levine explain his journey into understanding attachment theory?
Hi, Monty. How are you? I'm good. Did you have a good weekend?
I did have a good weekend.
Anything spectacular happen?
Nothing spectacular, which is a good weekend.
Okay.
You know, relaxing weekend. I'm moving this week.
Friday?
I'm sleeping there on Friday.
Oh my God, Monica's been building a house across the street for what, five, six years?
It'll be six years.
Wow. Congratulations. Thank you. That's amazing. Thank you.
It's been a long time coming, so I am very excited. So this week is a big week because there's a lot of like moving parts and getting this stuff over.
I wonder if any of your attachment theory stuff is coming up.
Oh, I hope.
I hope.
I'm so obsessed with attachment theory. I'm so glad you're here because I'm obsessed with it and I don't think I really understand it. And I think a lot of people feel that way. Like they reference attachment theory a lot, but I don't know if we're all doing it correctly.
There's a lot of myths and misconceptions for sure.
Okay, great.
Well, we're going to- Where are you from, Amir? Originally, I grew up in Jerusalem.
Okay. Do you find this to be true that the Israelis, they tick up highest on the disagreeability category? We've had a lot of experts talk about that.
Oh, that Israelis disagree a lot? Oh, yeah, it's part of our culture. Yeah, yeah, I like it. It took me time. What Americans would consider being rude is actually just normal way of speaking. Like, they go like that, which is like, no, I don't agree with you. Like dismissing. That would be considered so rude. No one would speak like that here. Do you know Orna? Yeah.
Does she work at NYU in some capacity?
I think she does. I don't know her personally, but I know her work.
But you're at Columbia as a researcher.
I am at Columbia, yeah.
Well, we had her on and I was saying to her, she has this wonderful gift of she's endlessly hopeful and empathetic. And also, and I asked her, I'm like, is this the Israeli side? You can also on a dime be like, okay, disagreeable time. Like you're very comfortable in the disagreeability. I'd say I'm high on the disagreeability.
Not only that, I think that's how I got into Columbia to do my residency there. Really? Yeah. I went to medical school in Jerusalem and they said, don't bother. They don't take foreign medical graduates. And I said, okay, I'll just go and at least I'll get to talk to all these interesting researchers. And I read about the research and some of the people I knew about the research. Because usually you go and you go to grand rounds, you spend the day on the wards. And I said, no, I want to meet with the researchers. So then I met with one guy who seemed kind of like old and very non-threatening. And I knew about his work. So I told him how much I liked his work, but I could have been improved. There's all these different shortcomings in his methodology.
And it sort of went on and on. I was just like, what do I have to lose? You had nothing to lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And at the end of it, he said, okay, I want you to meet with a few more people. He called a few more people around. It was the Department of Epidemiology. And they all got together and wrote a letter on my behalf to the head of the residency program.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–1:01
2
How does Amir Levine explain his journey into understanding attachment theory?
1:01–5:41
3
What are the myths and misconceptions about attachment theory?
5:41–38:37
4
How does Amir relate his personal experiences to attachment theory?
38:37–1:04:38
5
How do secure attachments influence personal relationships?
1:04:38–1:04:56
6
What role does memory play in emotional healing?
1:04:56–1:06:36
7
How do attachment styles affect our emotional responses?
1:06:36–1:08:12
8
What insights does Amir share about attachment theory and personal growth?
1:08:12–2:02:01