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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Anthony Anderson

Mon, 28 Apr 2025

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Anthony Anderson (G20, Black-ish, The Departed) is an Emmy Award-nominated actor, comedian, and television host. Anthony joins the Armchair Expert to discuss being in the Guinness Book of World Records for furthest hit golf ball with the longest usable club, why he thinks Stevie Wonder can see, and calling Lionel Richie to cash in on his long-promised dinner. Anthony and Dax talk about how it felt to grow up in the hotbed of music, movies, and culture, both being called for availability by SNL only to be ghosted, and realizing that he still hasn’t really processed the death of his father. Anthony explains all the serendipity surrounding his return to Howard University, the epic story of defeating Michael Jordan in dominoes, and being handpicked to star alongside EGOT Viola Davis in his new action thriller.Follow Armchair Expert on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new content on YouTube or listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/armchair-expert-with-dax-shepard/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What world records does Anthony Anderson hold?

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117.431 - 118.852 Unknown Speaker

He's an uptake star

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135.087 - 139.269 Anthony Anderson

No, motherfucker, you didn't do push-ups before the charity event.

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139.289 - 144.351 Dax Shepard

Before the charity event, yeah. I try not to be swole at charity events. It's not a good look.

144.851 - 159.198 Anthony Anderson

Hey, what's up, son? Loosen up your rotator cuff. Nathan and I are in the Guinness Book of World Records. I'm in there twice. Twice? And you're in there, what, just one time, son? Only one time. I need more. I don't have any more. Oh, you don't even have any more. That's right.

159.218 - 159.899 Aaron

You've been removed.

160.399 - 165.062 Anthony Anderson

I'm sorry. All right. I got to go. I'll holler at you later, man. Oh, wow. Wait, what are your records?

165.102 - 167.783 Dax Shepard

Well, that's as good a place as any to start. What world records do you hold?

Chapter 2: How did Anthony Anderson break the golf ball distance record?

224.545 - 241.115 Anthony Anderson

No, I was invited to do it. So if you go to Topgolf right now, They played a video on Topgolf. It's been playing there for years. Because I did it at a Topgolf in Vegas. Okay, great. I forget who invited me or how I got involved with it, but they asked me to come down and do it. And I was like, yeah. So I got a couple of surprises and whacked a motherfucker.

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241.375 - 256.526 Anthony Anderson

And then when I hit it and broke the record, they had a fucking marching band come out. Oh, you're kidding. That I had no idea was happening. It was like, he broke the record and his whole marching band, like 50 or 60 people with instruments. Wow.

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256.946 - 265.49 Dax Shepard

Now, my question is. I have so many. Me too. Are people sitting around thinking like, okay, how about this? Here's a world record. 36-foot golf club. Who's imagining this?

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265.61 - 267.79 Aaron

Maybe they're going through the book and saying, I could do this.

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268.051 - 289.29 Anthony Anderson

After that, I felt compelled to make a show. Once the marching band came out? After the record. After I did it and they did all this shit. And then my son, as you heard on the call, Nathan was in the Guinness book of world records for putting on the most t-shirts in 30 seconds. They had a Guinness book come up to a school and I don't know what the record was, but my son beat it.

289.45 - 290.371 Anthony Anderson

How many did he put on?

290.411 - 290.871 Dax Shepard

What if it was like 27, 30?

290.972 - 291.652 Anthony Anderson

It was almost one a second.

293.334 - 297.537 Dax Shepard

And I got to imagine once you're wearing 30 t-shirts, it's got to be getting up around his face. Yeah.

Chapter 3: What are Anthony Anderson's thoughts on Stevie Wonder's vision?

501.118 - 519.48 Dax Shepard

Okay. So you and I were recently together, which was really fun. I mean, don't say it like that. No, I'm going to leave it just like that. Just like the world record. We were recently together. Moving on. Great time. We, among some other people, went to Vegas because Kimmel was being honored. And we were on an airplane together. We were shooting the shit. Not just an airplane. We were on a PJ.

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519.701 - 520.941 Dax Shepard

We were on a private jet.

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520.961 - 523.823 Anthony Anderson

They need to know, we just weren't flying Southwest. That's a good look for you.

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523.884 - 537.973 Dax Shepard

It's not a good look for me. Why is it not a good look for you? I'll tell you, and I say this all the time on here. When black people are showing wealth, I'm like, fuck yeah. It was impossible for you to get it. Fucking let it rip. I don't mind at all.

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538.574 - 548.15 Anthony Anderson

When I see a white kid driving a Lamborghini, I'm like, come on. Yeah, I mean, but it's a flex that we could all use, man. It's not JetBlue. Yeah. Or the other one.

548.23 - 560.7 Dax Shepard

It was a private jet. But would you agree there's a difference? Mm-hmm. No one's going to be rooting for me to be on a private jet, nor should they. I root for you. Because we know each other. And you know I'm from the fucking bowels of hillbilly country, Michigan.

560.72 - 562.281 Unknown Speaker

Come on, baby.

562.301 - 572.61 Dax Shepard

Yeah. Okay, so we're on this flight, and we're talking about gambling. And I already know that you gamble. Yeah. I'm fixing to gamble when we're there. We have a little two-hour break. And then you're like, let's play together. Yeah.

572.87 - 589.093 Dax Shepard

And I don't know if I was very forthcoming in the moment, but I was starting to get really fearful that we were going to sit down and you were going to be playing like 2000 a hand. And I was going to be playing like 25 and feeling emasculated. And you go, we should play. And I'm like, yes. You did jump at the opportunity to do it.

Chapter 4: How did Anthony Anderson cope with his father's death?

2176.92 - 2186.425 Anthony Anderson

And then he had this one particular corner in Watts in LA that he would go to and set up shop, you know, canopies and tents. It was like an open storefront.

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2186.505 - 2191.188 Dax Shepard

Did he make you work with him ever? Yeah, and I didn't have a problem doing it. Good chance to work on your people skills.

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2191.208 - 2210.121 Anthony Anderson

Yeah, popping my shit, my dad popping his shit, making money, getting paid as a teenager. Then from there... my father started opening stores. And when he opened the stores, it was for plus size women because my mom was a plus size. So he was just catering to the women he loved. So it was plus size women in children's clothing. And that's what he did, man. And what did Doris do?

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2210.341 - 2216.466 Anthony Anderson

I know she wanted to be an actor. She wanted to be an actor. My mother was a telephone operator for the County of Los Angeles.

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2216.507 - 2219.729 Dax Shepard

Yeah, I read that and I was like, this feels so 80s to be a telephone operator.

2219.749 - 2238.525 Anthony Anderson

Yeah, yeah. And she worked at a hospital, Harbor General UCLA Medical Center in Torrance, California. And you had a little brother. Two little brothers and a sister. My sister's the baby. I'm the oldest. I lost my youngest brother about 20 years ago now in a car accident while he was at West Texas A&M College playing football. Oh, yeah, because they're probably huge like your dad. Yeah.

2238.605 - 2244.49 Anthony Anderson

So we lost him and then a year later lost my dad. So it's three children now, me, my brother Derek and my sister Doris.

2244.87 - 2263.216 Dax Shepard

When my dad died, I thought it was going well. Okay. But in reflection, it really fucked me up more than I really kind of realized at the time. And I have a few friends whose dads also died too young. I don't know. It can bring out some wild stuff.

2263.576 - 2270.759 Anthony Anderson

I processed it as best as I could or as best as I knew how. And I don't think I've really processed it as an adult.

Chapter 5: What inspired Anthony Anderson to return to Howard University?

2672.171 - 2675.134 Anthony Anderson

So they were like, maybe we need to change the name of the team.

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2675.174 - 2676.855 Aaron

Let's rebrand Optics.

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2676.995 - 2684.002 Anthony Anderson

Washington Murderers. Yeah, right. So they changed the name from the Washington Bullets to the Washington Wizards. Just a little something for you.

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2684.062 - 2706.127 Dax Shepard

Yeah, a little extra. So you run out of money and you come back to L.A. Yeah. How long before getting back to starting to get employed? Because I feel like you and I have a kind of a similar... I didn't start getting hired as an actor till like 28. 25 for me. Oh, right. You do five years on a Saturday morning teen show. I got that when I was 25 years old.

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2706.147 - 2727.002 Anthony Anderson

So I left Howard... At 20. Those five years is long, right? Yeah, I came home, especially with nothing. My parents ended up getting separated a few years after I came home. I moved in with my mom, went to a couple of community colleges just because I wanted to keep my mind active. I was like, I'm going back to Howard. I just want to sit here and fuck off. So let me go to some JC's.

2727.362 - 2744.071 Anthony Anderson

I went to El Camino Community College and I went to Compton College for a semester each. And I was like, yeah, I just want to keep my mind active. And I want to pick up some classes that's going to transfer. when I go back for my senior year. That shit never happened. Well, until 2020. When did you go back? 2022 is when I went back.

2744.331 - 2745.071 Aaron

And you graduated.

2745.091 - 2762.396 Anthony Anderson

Yeah, my son got accepted to Howard University in 2018. When I went to college, I would have been the first person to graduate in my family from college. So that's why I was like, no, I got to go back and fucking finish. Then I started having kids. And then my younger cousins, 10, 15 years younger than me, they started going to college and graduating. I was like, fuck, I wanted to be the first.

2762.436 - 2762.816 Anthony Anderson

Yeah.

Chapter 6: What is Anthony Anderson's experience working with Viola Davis in G20?

3749.955 - 3750.355 Dax Shepard

That is so funny.

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3750.395 - 3767.201 Anthony Anderson

And he was like, what? I was like, dog, when I watch you on the boys, you're seven feet tall to me, motherfucker. Yeah. You're a fucking superhero. I was like, the way you are on that motherfucking show, it's not you. Right. That's not who I work with. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, man.

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3767.221 - 3778.544 Dax Shepard

Yeah, out of context. And it's a testament to who he is as an actor. What he does on The Boys, the fact that that dude hasn't won an Emmy. I mean, what he's doing on The Boys is the bad guy and you feel bad for him sometimes. Yes, you do.

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3778.864 - 3799.69 Anthony Anderson

It's like when I saw Fela. on Broadway and I went backstage to meet the cast and I was looking for the dude that played Fela and I forget his name, but I'm talking to him. And as I'm talking to him, I keep looking behind him and looking around, trying to find a dude before he leaves and shit. And then I realized it's him. And then when I left, I was like, oh my God. Yeah.

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3799.71 - 3817.52 Anthony Anderson

Because he was a small, demure dude. But as Fela on stage, this motherfucker was larger than the fucking theater that they were in on Broadway. But when I went to meet him, he's just a regular dude. And I was like, this motherfucker's phenomenal. Yeah. He's a magician. That's how I feel about Anthony Starks as motherfucking Homelander on The Boys.

3817.86 - 3821.322 Dax Shepard

So, yeah, it looks fucking awesome, by the way. It is, man. The trailer is outrageously good.

3821.502 - 3834.928 Anthony Anderson

Viola and I are ex-military and it's a big action film. You know, terrorists take over the G20 global summit that we're at. We end up kicking ass and getting our ass kicked throughout the film. She's doing a ton of ass kicking. Wait till you see it. You're going to be like, God damn.

3834.988 - 3843.311 Dax Shepard

She's an action star. She is. It was amazing to be a part of and amazing to watch. Well, Anthony, I adore you. I have so much fun when I get to be around you. This was great.

3843.331 - 3845.312 Aaron

We didn't get Lionel, but that's all right.

Chapter 7: What funny stories does Anthony Anderson share about Michael Jordan?

5114.732 - 5123.78 Aaron

She said... When she was looking at it, she was like, if I was going to cheat, she's like, which I never would. Because it's not like... Mine. Yeah.

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5123.92 - 5126.082 Dax Shepard

And a lot of people... I can live with my... Yeah.

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5126.122 - 5127.763 Aaron

She'll be on the ground.

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5127.823 - 5128.163 Dax Shepard

Yeah, yeah.

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5128.683 - 5134.707 Aaron

She's like, that might be... That would be the one, even though she's not going to do it. Anyway, she got some for Max. Max loved them.

5134.787 - 5137.049 Dax Shepard

Oh, he did. And he's a chef for people who don't know. Exactly.

5137.069 - 5139.411 Aaron

He's a chef. So this all circles back, right?

5139.491 - 5139.771 Dax Shepard

Okay.

5139.811 - 5153.485 Aaron

This is relevant because when we first got to the hotel, there was... two like freshly batched cocktails with my name and Callie's name.

Chapter 8: What is the significance of G20 for Anthony Anderson?

5254.353 - 5259.695 Aaron

He said, that sounded creepy. We have to get drunk on my cooking show.

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5260.056 - 5262.897 Dax Shepard

Which is very, very funny.

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5263.117 - 5268.019 Aaron

Yeah, I like that he's aware of not being creepy. I think that's a great thing.

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5268.099 - 5268.519 Dax Shepard

I do too.

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5269.079 - 5286.293 Aaron

Anywho, so I need to send Bert that cocktail. He'll love it. Yes. But anyway, so I was like, well, maybe it was a wink, but probably not. Probably just something sweet they do. And still, that could be the case. But then there was this cute little card they wrote. And I didn't really understand it at first.

5286.433 - 5286.853 Unknown Speaker

Yeah.

5286.994 - 5303.305 Aaron

Because there were two hats for Callie and I that they had given us. And then there was a little note that said something along the lines of, here's some hats so you can be in quotes, a new Monica. And then I forgot that we had just talked about hats on the fact check.

5303.385 - 5305.126 Dax Shepard

And that you're a new Monica.

5305.146 - 5314.932 Aaron

I felt like a new Monica when I wore them. So, so we did have some arm cherry fans who worked at the auberge and it was really, really sweet. And I do believe one of them was Phoebe.

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