This had to be one of the more interesting podcasts I've done. It's with Helen and Richard Shull, and they own Esmeralda Turquoise Company in Nevada. They had come into my gallery and we were talking about what they do. It turns out they're miners/gemologists and they own turquoise mines that are scattered through northern Nevada.After a brief conversation I asked them to come on the show and they gave this wonderful talk about how you find mines, and what it means to be a miner in 2023. They clearly love what they do. I mean, these are very intellectual, savvy individuals. Richard's a gemologist and Helen is a botanist, but they just love turquoise.I wrote a fiction book called Stone Men. That was kind of the ethos of what this was like. To have these two actual stone people who have dedicated their entire lives, eating, breathing, and living turquoise on the podcast, well, it made for a phenomenal episode. Richard and Helen Shull on Art Dealer Diaries Podcast episode 272.

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