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What Can Fetish Research Tell Us About AI?

30 Aug 2023

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 Epistemic status: Ha ha, only serious... Arguing about gender is like taking OxyContin. There can be good reasons to do it. But most people don't do it for the good reasons. And even if you start doing it for good reasons, you might get addicted and ruin your life. Walk through San Francisco if you want to see people who ruined their lives with opioids; browse Substack to get a visceral appreciation of the dangers of arguing about gender. Still, I've been debating autogynephilia fetishes with Michael Bailey, tailcalled, Zack Davis, and Aella (Bailey and Davis think they're deeply involved in transgender; tailcalled, Aella and I mostly don't); I've also studied BDSM and lactation fetishes, and Aella has done even more fetish-ology work. In a world that might be on the verge of radical, even unimaginable changes, how do we justify spending time on such an unsavory field? The real answer is - we don't justify it. I'm easily nerd-sniped just like everyone else, and I assume the same is true of Aella, tailcalled, etc. This post is about a fake answer which I think is funny, but which also has just enough truth to be worth thinking about: I think fetish research can help us understand AI and AI alignment. https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/what-can-fetish-research-tell-us

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