True Crime Tonight: The New Mafia
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Hello, this is True Crime Tonight. I am your host, Michelle Laurie. I'm here with Matthew and Ruby, the producers, the people who create all of this. Thank you both so much.
Oh, thank you, Michelle.
That was really nice. Just want to give you some flowers.
Never heard you say that before.
Oh, that's all right. We have a book recommendation coming up.
Didn't want to linger.
No, because you threw me under the bus. I just said thank you and then you were like, oh, she never does that. So I just stepped away from it. But I tell you what, we do have a book recommendation coming up and an interview with Pete Bates. Now, you're going to find him very interesting. I don't want to give too much away, but Pete has spent a lot of time in jail.
Yes.
So it's a particular perspective that he has on the world, and I think he's fantastic. But I believe we have a message from a listener, Matthew.
We do. What are we calling it? The True Crime Hotline?
That's what we're calling it.
And to leave us a message on the True Crime Hotline, you can find a link. It's called a SpeakPipe link. I don't want to get too complicated. But it's in the show notes of every Australian True Crime podcast episode and it's also on our social media. Let's play this week's.
Hey guys, absolutely love the show. And I just wanted to highlight an excellent podcast I've been listening to that I think Michelle in particular might be interested in. It's called Escaping the Cross by Glenn Owen Fisher. And I just also wanted to explore a little bit the case of Chris and Shanann Watts over in Colorado. There's a really great podcast called The Chris Watts Tapes, which covers quite a few aspects that weren't covered in the Netflix documentary. There's so many unanswered questions, which is why the podcast is great because it kind of in a way, maybe answer some of those for some people.
Thank you so much. You know, please, though, you guys have got to leave your names. I would love to be able to say thank you, your name.
Yeah, but maybe they want to be anonymous.
Maybe they do, but if you can try and remember to go, hi, I'm Michelle from Altona or wherever, whoever you are, that's who I am. But, yeah, everyone knows that, Ruby.
I was going to say, do we want to put that on air?
Everybody knows I'm from Altona. Escaping the Cross is interesting.
Yes, that was with Glenn Fisher, who we've had on Australia in True Crime. He has a book called Predators Paradise. Glenn Fisher was one of lots of kids in that era who, you know, coming from broken homes.
Oh, God, he taught me so much about those awful refuges in inverted commas.
Yeah, what do you call them? I want to call them like institutions, but it's not even really, it's not even like a government place. It was like privately owned places.
Yeah, but this one, one that he was talking about specifically that was run by people who were subsequently convicted of predation, of molestation. But it had government funding.
Yeah.
Like it wasn't a, you know, it was just this wild west of funneling disadvantaged children towards pedophiles. I swear to God, that was the whole setup.
So what would you, there'd be like these, basically like these homes where kids could go and stay run by, I guess you'd call them social workers. Well, is what they would call themselves. Did they have any training?
I don't know. They were just blokes.
And yeah, essentially just heaps of them were being abused by the people that worked there and also... Oh, that's awful.
It's unbelievable.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:11
2
What listener podcast recommendations kick off the episode?
5:11–5:36
3
Which true crime podcasts did the listener recommend and why?
5:36–8:02
4
What is Escaping the Cross and Glenn Fisher’s connection to child abuse inquiries?
8:02–15:29
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What questions does The Chris Watts Tapes raise beyond the Netflix documentary?
15:29–20:30