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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

The method of invention, AI's new clock speed and why capital markets are confused

05 Dec 2025

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Welcome to Exponential View, the show where I explore how exponential technologies such as AI are reshaping our future. I've been studying AI and exponential technologies at the frontier for over ten years. Each week, I share some of my analysis or speak with an expert guest to make light of a particular topic. To keep up with the Exponential transition, subscribe to this podcast or to my newsletter: https://www.exponentialview.co/ --- In this episode, I reflect on the third anniversary of ChatGPT's launch as a marker of where we are in the exponential age. As a product, ChatGPT captures the speed of technological progress, the new behaviours emerging around it and the widening gap between innovation and institutional change – all symptomatic of the era I called the exponential age in my 2021 book. I cover: (00:09) How ChatGPT became synonymous with AI (01:41) The rise of the reasoning model (03:53) Why NVIDIA's chip cycle is exponential (05:53) How general-purpose tech changes everything (07:59) The subtle power of building bespoke software (11:46) The iPhone calculation that breaks everything (14:53) Who profits from a general-purpose technology? (16:38) The software market example (20:07) Are we headed towards another .com crash?  Where to find me: Exponential View newsletter: https://www.exponentialview.co/ Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/ LinkedIn: /azhar Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem Production by supermix.io and EPIIPLUS1 Production and research: Chantal Smith and Marija Gavrilov. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0.031 - 27.49 Azeem Azhar

So ChatGPT has its third anniversary this week. Let's look at ChatGPT through the lens of my exponential age framework. I guess the first point is that ChatGPT and the large language model it's built on, they're just one segment of a larger exponential transition, even if we just think about computing. But ChatGPT tends to drown things out because

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27.47 - 56.423 Azeem Azhar

It's becoming the verb for AI and with some justification. According to a recent counter, a message on X from one of the investors in OpenAI, nearly 900 million users. That means people seem to like it. Data from SimilarWeb, which monitors web usage and app usage, shows that it's a really, really sticky business. app, about a third of people who use ChatGPT in a month use it every day.

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56.803 - 72.124 Azeem Azhar

Now that's not as much as Instagram for sake of argument, but it's about the same level as YouTube and higher than Snapchat, both really sticky, well-loved apps. So there's scale there that is creating noise and occupying headspace.

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72.104 - 97.966 Azeem Azhar

But of course, you can't say scale and think about chat GPT without thinking about the grammar of scale that is involved, those large language models, those scaling laws, the increasingly large, voracious demand for compute and for chips, the bigger and bigger data centers. The numbers are so big, hundreds of billions of dollars, they seem to tower over the debate like a skyscraper.

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98.387 - 125.374 Azeem Azhar

But in a way, that hides what else is going on. As some of you may remember, OpenAI launched GPT 4.5. It was a new foundation model replacing GPT-4 that they put out soon after ChatGPT, and 4.5 was kind of a flop. It was an attempt to do a big model. We didn't really like it. It sort of fell a bit flat. But what OpenAI did and what the researchers did is they found a new approach.

125.394 - 146.632 Azeem Azhar

They found that approach of reasoning, that's thinking at inference time, the point at which you or I might put a query into the chatbot. And those reasoning models, 01, 03, 04, performed really, really well. I think it was a real milestone moment in how an emerging technology starts to improve.

147.654 - 166.253 Azeem Azhar

Now, if you've used Gemini Pro, which Google released an update to a few days ago, it really feels like there's something going on beyond either the reasoning model approach or the large language model. Of course, Gemini Pro is using both of those techniques.

166.756 - 189.878 Azeem Azhar

But it feels like there's a new technology sitting behind that because Gemini 3 is really well grounded in the complexities of the real world. And perhaps that's a hint to the kind of world model that Demis Hassabis has alluded to. So what we often see with these exponential technologies is that from a distance, they look like, you know, one planet.

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single smooth curve, but in fact, there are a series of overlapping curves of different technologies and different approaches that ultimately give you that exponential. Now, it's not to say that the foundation models companies are not pursuing scale. And what Google proved with Gemini was that scale still works at each stage of building these models.

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