Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns
Josh Morris | Part 1 | State of Origin, Twin Dynamic & Media World
21 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to the podcast today and you're about to listen to episode 1. After you've finished, head straight over to episode 2. Okay, enjoy.
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Chapter 2: What are Josh Morris's roots and early influences in rugby?
Let's do it now. So, yeah, first impressions of Josh were very highly, mate, I thought you were a very respectable young man.
Well, mate, I'll tell you.
And that's what I said to him. I said, mate, I said, you know, I said, mate, yeah, I said, listen, I don't know much about rugby league, but I know one thing, the game will repay you back the heart of your work and you keep at it, kid, you'll do good things. He said, I played 300 games.
Couldn't agree with you more.
You don't know much about rugby league. Went like that after that brief encounter as well.
Yeah, I think you retired three years later.
I'll tell you what he did. Remember Jackie got the dark mist? Cooper gets the dark mist. You'll see it every now and then. Red mist. For no apparent reason, you're right, a dark cloud, red mist. It actually descends on him, and all of a sudden he gets really, really dark at that lunch, and he turns.
Remember that? Yes, irritable.
Remember Fletch goes, even Fletch goes, mate, what's the matter with the young bloke? Nah. He's a fuckwit. Because I couldn't drink. Oh, no. Jeez, mate. So sorry about that. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How did Josh Morris navigate the media world after retirement?
So that was a pretty cool moment. But I'd met him before as well. He actually played at Bobcat Ryan's wedding. And we played the Storm in Adelaide for a couple of years. And I went to the toilet after the game. We were in the team room. I went to the toilet and came back, and he was sitting there with a guitar. On the toilet? No. He does his warm-ups in the toilet. I bet you he does.
Best acoustics in the cubicle, apparently. It's funny, Brian Fletcher says the same thing. So he came back and I came back into the room and he's playing all these songs, just acoustic. It was unbelievable. He's a massive Dragons fan.
Yeah. So Dragons fandom, when we won the copy, sort of like Knights as well, but mostly Dragons.
Yeah.
He was a, growing up, he was a junior referee.
Yeah.
And linesman. And think about that now. They've become one of the biggest rock stars in the world there for a while.
That'd be a scary bike because he's quite a scary looking man. He looks a lot like Trish. It's probably a good career move.
I think it would be.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Josh provide on the State of Origin rivalry?
Yeah, mate, it is. I was just saying to James off air, I stopped through there on the way to Ngeringong, and the blowhole was just like, it was blowing.
was in really good form because there was the uh it was coming in i think from the east the wind and the soil nor east it was coming in just a perfect traction into the hole squirting out and mate talk about yeah yeah sorry there's a turn of phrase there i probably shouldn't use uh but talk about a tourist attraction for kiama there were buses of people coming in to see it just oh mate in summer there used to be like the main street used to take you
like 10 15 minutes to get down in the car used to be a absolute punish because if the blowhole is working everyone wants to go there and i spoke about it off air um a couple of my mates used to jump into it and jump over the back of it and they'd wait for the buses to turn up when it was a bit of a smaller day and they'd be jumping and they'd be taking photos of them going ah superman and they'd be posing as superman in these photos with them
So it was a great place to grow up. And that footy ground is probably one of the most picturesque in Australia. But it was a shit place to play in winter, especially if there was a southerly wind. Like you could hit a line dropout and it would go 80 on the full. Really? Go dead. Wow. That's how strong the wind would be there. So you imagine that and a bit of rain. It used to be horrible.
You can imagine talent scouts going down there and going, this kid's kicking game. You've never seen anything like it. Then he gets to a neutral ground. They go, actually, it wasn't as good as we thought.
He's had six 4020s.
Georgie Mimas just taking them out here, knock one over, I'll put this on you.
But there's plenty of talent that's come from down that way. I mean, when I was growing up, there was Rod Wishart and then Sean Timmons, who was a bit older than me. Those were the types of blokes that we grew up idolising because they were from Kiama and Djerongong and they were able to play in the NRL. So you could see that there was a pathway there.
You know what's cool, though, about those? Because I was just down there. I had a beer with Rocket Rod or Throbbin Rod as he's going by now.
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Chapter 5: How does the twin dynamic affect Josh and Brett Morris's careers?
And then we stopped doing it all together, but then the listeners didn't stop. They went to his Wikipedia page and started ā they changed his name to Tyron the Contortionist Wishy. Wikipedia is still undefeated. So I love how Wikipedia, even after all these years, you don't need to have some sort of verification to edit anyone's Wikipedia. You can just go in there and write whatever you want.
Well, a couple of players used to change their birth date. I think Jeremy Smith did it and Chris Hyington. Did he really? Get a couple of years at the back end of their career, kept on changing their age. Change their height and their weight. No, that's what Gail does. Gail says he's 182 centimetres. I'm like, fuck off, Gail. You're about 45.
Oh, mate. I'll just explain to the boys, Josh. Growing up, so what year were you born?
86. 86. 40 this year.
Oh, wow. You wouldn't have been... I've seen your dad's career as a kid.
No, like I barely remember. Like he was at the Roosters when he retired and I would have been about three or four. I can still remember little parts of him interacting after the match with fans and stuff like that. But in terms of his footy, no, I don't remember it, but he had this tape. And it's on YouTube now. If you Google his name, you'll see.
And this tape of all his tries, that's what we had. And we would watch on repeat. Me and Brett would just sit there and watch it.
He was a real cult figure when he hit. Because I remember, it's funny, he went through ā he sort of crossed over ā
two eras yeah which is interesting so he crossed over the era where the halfback was sort of fast ducker and data it was a place like steve mortimer and whatnot billy smith before that and he was that and then all of a sudden when the game started to become a little more strategic and they wanted something different from the halves they moved him to the wing realized he couldn't pass and tackle yeah as i was doing that i was thinking i'm gonna really run your old man down here
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Chapter 6: What challenges did Josh face during his rugby career?
But, yeah, it's just ā yeah, it's just ā it's ā It's not like a job. Yeah. Like I said, I worked hard for that probably 12 to 18 months on the tools and I reckon I had more injuries on the tools than I had playing football in 15 years. Low back. Mate, no, I fell off a ladder.
I was trying to shoot something into one of the hangars and the ladder went and because there was a window in front of me, I've kind of hooked the ladder and pulled it back that way. But as I've done that, I've dropped my nail gun. Oh. And turned over and just shredded me straight across my stomach.
And then a brick landed on my head because I was cleaning the floor around this ladder and one of the brickies left it on there and it just hit me straight on the top of the floor. Mate, I saw him the next day and I said, mate, don't come near me. And he thought I was joking. I said, mate, I'm not joking. If you come near me, I'm going to knock you out.
And he goes, all right, I think I'm just going to go to this other job. Boys around the corner. But, yeah, so. But I enjoyed that kind of stuff as well because it was, you know, hard labour and you're part of a team again and that's something that you miss when you retire. Obviously the locker room.
spending all day with your mates and talking shit and I guess that kind of has similar traits to being in a footy side. So I did enjoy it but, yeah, I'm kind of happy the media stuff has kicked off.
It's funny, I can only imagine sometimes people, you know, book some work and you turn up with the crew and they're going ā You know, like Josh Morris.
Yeah, no, he must have gone shit with his investments and whatnot. But no, I didn't. I just enjoyed the kind of physical labour and the hard work and I guess earning the beer at the end of the week.
And, you know, look, what you just said there, that's how it sort of used to be. Players would, you know, through their careers, boys, they would play and literally ā The game, the rugby league thing was secondary. They were full-time workers.
Yeah, and dad was a teacher.
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Chapter 7: How did Josh transition from player to media personality?
And I ask the same question.
They're prostitutes now, of course.
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Okay. Was he a good teacher? No, not really, but he was fun. I think if it rained, he just used to put on like The Simpsons or the movies or he'd put on games of himself or something like that. They'd just sit there and watch.
So they didn't learn anything.
They had fun.
Montevail Primary School, public school. The groundsman at Manavar Public School was Fatty Voughton, and the maths teacher was Johnny Gibbs, and of course they're best mates. So what they used to do sometimes, he'd just go, Fat, just get the incinerator going.
And then in the meantime, Fatty would sit underneath the window of Gibbsy's class, and Gibbsy would have one ear at the window, and they'd just listen to the races all day. Oh, really? As he goes, mate, none of my kids can read or write, but he said, they know what 64 on means.
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Chapter 8: What are the memorable moments from Josh's State of Origin experiences?
And what's funny about it, Mate, when it was Hadley, Bob Fulton, there was Gibbsy, Big Man. Yeah, Big Man. And you also had a bloke there, Peter Fralingos, who was an iconic journalist at the time. Like the buzz of his time. And what they were, for use of a better term, mate, I won't say they're a scary group, but... you didn't fuck with them.
If you fuck with one of them, and I remember once we played a game, Josh, we were playing Sharks at home, and Joey, there was talk in the newspaper that Joey was going to get sacked from Origin.
Yeah.
Peter Falingos is in the crowd. Now, he just quoted a selector. And I said in the press conference, anyone who thinks Andrew Johns should be dropped from the New South Wales side, obviously know nothing about football, right? And what happened is a few of the journos turned to Chippy Falingos. So he took it personally. Anyway, one of the other journos said, this is a message from Chippy.
I'm going to give it to you for the next month. So, mate, literally for the next month, they just zeroed in on me and just gave it to me, gave it to me, gave it to me, just relentlessly. Then after the month, he goes, are we square? And I said...
Yes, sir.
It's like a bikey game. Yeah, no, it was like a mafia. Yeah. You know, if you pulled Bozo's tail set on Bozo or Hadley or any of them, mate, they were after you.
Yeah. Oh, they tell a couple of good stories about Bozo, about how if there was ā like they used to always get food and stuff delivered and they'd have products delivered and then it'd just be disappearing. Then they'd open up the back of Bozo's car and there'd be platters of seafood in there. There'd be a lawnmower in there. Yeah.
Whatever was going, he would get it first before anyone else did. And then even one day, I think the big man had his name on a pie and he'd written ā no, Levy had his name on a pie, sorry, and he'd written his name on it. And he's gone to get it and he couldn't find it. And then Bozo's called in and he goes, why have I got Levy's pie with me?
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