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Chapter 1: What themes of gratitude are expressed during Thanksgiving?
We've come to the time in the season When family and friends gather near To offer a prayer of thanksgiving For blessings we've known through the years To join hands and thank the Creator Now when Thanksgiving is due
This year when I count my blessings I'm thanking the Lord He made you This year when I count my blessings I'm thanking the Lord He made you I'm grateful for the laughter of children The sun and the wind and the rain The color of blue in your sweet eyes, the sight of a high-balling train. The moonrise over a prairie, an old love that you've made new.
And this year when I count my blessings, I'm thinking the Lord, he made you. This year when I count my blessings I'm thankin' the Lord He made you And when the time comes to be goin' It won't be in sorrow and tears I'll kiss you goodbye and I'll go on the way
I'm grateful for all of the years I'm thankful for all that you gave me For teaching me what love can do And Thanksgiving Day for the rest of my life I'm thanking the Lord He made you And Thanksgiving Day for the rest of my life Thanking the Lord he made you.
It is Thursday, Thanksgiving Day, 27 November, in the year of the Lord, 2025. Johnny Cash with the Thanksgiving song we play. every year about this time. Very special, honored to have back Dr. Larry Zweigert, the co-author of one of the most profound books, I think, about history in the history of the country, The Patriots' History of the United States.
Larry, or Doc, thank you so much for joining us again as we do this one more time. It's always fantastic. Talk to me about not just Thanksgiving Day, but the whole Patriots history.
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Chapter 2: How does Dr. Larry Schweikart view the history of Thanksgiving?
You guys had a totally different take that's resonated down through the years. It was a number one bestseller. Rush Limbaugh fell in love with the book. It became a blockbuster. People, I think, would think, hang on, a conservative history of the United States. You guys had the idea because you were teachers of history, right? And you couldn't find a textbook ā
that actually told the true story of the United States, sir.
That's exactly right. Mike Allen and I met at a Western history conference, and we were lamenting how bad the traditional textbooks that were out there were. You know, it's interesting that they started off, many of these, like the National Experience or American Pageant, weren't terrible.
But over time, especially as they took on more co-authors and younger writers, they got to be extremely liberal. So by the early 1990s, Mike and I couldn't find anything to teach from. And as an instructor, it's a pain to have to argue against the textbook all the time. So we said, why don't we write our own?
Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Patriots' History of the United States?
So around 1999, we started writing this book. And by the way, it was not a direct response to Howard Zinn's People's History. This wasn't even really the original title of the manuscript we gave him. And we didn't think we'd get a publisher.
We thought we'd end up with a book that we had to bind and sell out of the back of a van along with plastic straws in California and various other sort of contraband items. Plastic straws, Patriots history of the United States. But we did get a publisher, and it worked out very well. And as you mentioned, we had a number of years where we had just good sales, everything was fine.
And then I went on Glenn Beck's show in 2010, And he had a massive audience at that time, about the equivalent of what Tucker had at Fox when he left Fox. And overnight, the book just exploded to the point we were shipping over 19,000 copies a single day. It is now in its 45th printing. And for your audience, I will have a free update from the last edition, which ended in 2018.
I will give people a free update if they just email me at larry at wildworldofhistory.com. That's larry at wildworldofhistory.com.
Chapter 4: How did the authors approach the writing of their history book?
We have two new chapters that go from 2018 to 2025. through Trump's first full term, through Biden's term, through COVID, and part of the way through Trump's term. So if you want that free update, it's a PDF. I'll email it to you if you email me at larry at wildworldofhistory.com.
We're going to get into all of this today. You're one of my favorite people to have on. Not just great chemistry and give and take, but your love of history just comes through, and it comes through on the book. So if anybody's ever wanted to, particularly their grandchildren, children, or yourself, if you don't think you know the whole story, what... Swickert and Alan do.
It's kind of academic to a degree. Parts of it are like a textbook, but it's like a narrative. It's like a huge novel, the arc of the history of the United States, and it's very profound. I want to thank everybody. We do our specials on Christmas Day. We do our specials on Thanksgiving Day.
Chapter 5: What are the four pillars of American exceptionalism mentioned?
I want to thank everybody, part of the War on Posse. Particularly today, we know you're probably traveling around Trying to get to Thanksgiving dinner this afternoon. And I love this book so much. I had Mo send me a bunch of copies. I started with one at the prison library. But this is, you know, people comment about I taught civics at Danbury Federal Prison. And one of the key textbooks I used.
was the Patriots' history of the United States, and it was amazing. Some of the inmates came up to me afterwards and said, what's this history book? And so I know it was standing room only at the prison library. In fact, I bought a bunch of copies and gave it to the prison library so they had more to circulate. Larry, let's talk about things here.
I'm going to go back to the founding of the country and all that. But we've had...
Chapter 6: How does the Mayflower Compact relate to American governance?
ken burns's uh the american revolution uh that's been on i don't know if you've been watching it but but let's go back to thanksgiving because you got did you did you watch burns's american rev american revolution no no i did not sorry i've been i've had uh not only the book you see in the background america in the 21st century which is coming out in february but uh the publisher and i decided we needed a book for america's 250th anniversary specifically
Although I wasn't going to write any more books. I go, okay, I'll do one more. And it's called American Biography. I know this is going to be right up your alley, Steve, because I follow the history of America, starting with John Smith all the way up to Trump. by linking people together, one to another to another, all the way through the history.
It's quite an amazing story, you know, that William Bradford, his ship was sent off on a prayer service by Increase Mather, who was Cotton Mather's father. And Bradford, of course, liked Cotton Mather a lot. And you just get into these connections whereby, did you know that Davy Crockett had on him one book at the Alamo? He brought with him one book, and it was Benjamin Franklin's autobiography.
I mean, you find these links through American history. We really are all tied together by less than six degrees of separation, quite honestly.
So you're saying it's kind of an unbroken chain of you look at American history. I think it was Carlyle that said history is just biography. Right.
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Chapter 7: What survival strategies did the Pilgrims use in America?
But you're actually going to prove it by doing American biography and linking back to the unbroken chain of American patriotism all the way back to the beginning through to telling people's stories.
Yeah, exactly right. I mean, we forget that so many of these people were contemporaries, but they weren't the same age. Washington overlapped Patrick Henry, who overlapped Thomas Jefferson, who overlapped James Madison. And you get Daniel Boone in there. You get Davy Crockett. Crockett, Boone, and Mike Fink apparently never met, even though Disney had
Mike Fink and Davy Crockett doing a keelboat race. Apparently they never met, but they were all in that same milieu, all at that same time, and they all knew of each other, which is just really remarkable.
Let's go back. I want to talk about Thanksgiving a little bit to kick the show off. Did you, and by the way, our out song is three minutes long, or does this take me down to it, or do you want to cut it three minutes? You let me know. I'm going to do. Okay, fine.
Chapter 8: What is the impact of written titles and deeds on property ownership?
You're going to give me the sign? Maybe I wait for Larry to come back. Is it three minutes out? Yes, three. Okay, fine. Larry, our doctor, and I'm going to bring you back. You're going to be with us for all two hours. When you come back, here's the question. Is any other nation on Earth really segregated out a time of year or a day
to actually give thanks to God, to give thanks to divine providence for the blessings of the nation. So we're going to let, we've got a very special song. Every year at Thanksgiving we do this. Odette, and we're ready to go. Let's go ahead and let the song, we're going to play the entire song to kick things off.
Where the grapes of wrath are stored He hath loosed the fateful lightning Of his terrible swift sword His truth is marching on Glory, glory, hallelujah. Glory, glory, hallelujah. His truth is marching on. I have seen him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps. They have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps.
I have read his righteous sentence By the dim and flaring lamps His truth is marching on Glory, glory, hallelujah His truth is marching on I have read a fiery gospel, written burnished rolls of steel. As ye deal with my condemners, so with you my grace shall deal. Let the hero born of woman crush the serpent with his heel. His truth is marching on.
glory hallelujah glory glory hallelujah his truth is marching on he has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never retreat He is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgment seat. Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer. Oh, be jubilant, my feet. His truth is marching on.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free His truth is marching on Glory, glory, hallelujah. Glory, glory, hallelujah. His truth is marching on. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored. He hath loosed the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword.
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