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Bannon`s War Room

Episode 4992: AI Takes Forefront Going Into 2026; Fighting For Trump's Nominees

12 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What recent political events are impacting Trump's nominees?

0.031 - 16.74 Steve Bannon

Tonight, Indiana Republicans have rejected the Trump backed effort to rig the state's congressional map. This is big news, folks. Twenty one Republicans crossed party lines to defeat the measure in the Republican controlled state Senate. That's more than half of the entire Republican caucus.

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idea cooked up, you know, in, you know, years ago that Donald Trump was going to be all commanding and all power, that there was going to be unitary executive power, you know, they cooked up at Heritage Foundation. It's it's it's already fallen apart and it's fallen apart because that's not the way America works. It's never been the way America works. It's never the way America will work.

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43.582 - 59.944 Unknown

I mean, you have people in Indiana, Republicans, who maybe six months ago would have never dared cross Donald Trump, are like, wait, wait a second. Wait, people elected us to represent Indiana, not to represent Donald Trump. Nobody was saying that months ago.

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59.964 - 87.314 Steve Bannon

Let me tell your audience as a fact, Minnesota as it exists now politically, in terms of the people and celebrities and celebrity Congress people and so on that are on our TV all the time. is about to face a meteor that's going to destroy it all. Those people are not going to be, some of them won't want to even be an American a year or two, really, I promise you. It's so bad. What do you mean?

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87.614 - 100.153 Steve Bannon

Well, the corruption is so bad. The levels of financial malfeasance are so high. Not only was there not vetting, but there was opposite vetting. I'm not letting you into this

100.133 - 125.517 Steve Bannon

uh government before we you prove you're more corrupt than me you know you have to be at least as corrupt as me if you want to be part of this thing okay otherwise we'll sell each other out sounds democratic the damn thing is a criminal gang which is just the right size it's big enough to is big enough to get people's attention but it's small enough for people to still like see it in a snow globe how it really works see washington's too freaking big

125.497 - 145.497 Steve Bannon

a corrupt enterprise for us to even see one tiny part of it, you know. But this Minnesota thing will allow us to sort of watch in almost a stadium version how our politics works and how our people lie and how the money gets sucked up and how it gets redistributed. And it's not going to stop.

145.477 - 171.805 Mike Davis

President Trump has signed an executive order limiting states' power to regulate artificial intelligence, creating a national framework to keep the U.S. competitive. The order launches an AI litigation task force, threatens funding cuts for states that mandate altered AI outputs, and calls for a federal law overriding most state rules.

171.785 - 181.279 Mike Davis

Supporters say it's key to counter China, while critics call on an assault on states' rights with legal battles expected.

Chapter 2: How is artificial intelligence being regulated under Trump's executive order?

783.9 - 789.43 Steve Bannon

Marc Andreessen put the citizens of our state first, particularly children and creators, sir.

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790.54 - 815.214 Unknown

That's just it. I mean, look, I get the point that the tech bros are making that you have these terrible laws, like in Colorado, where I live, where they're essentially... They want woke AI. They want DEI AI. They want censorship against conservatives. They actually want their AI machines, their algorithms, to pump out DEI and woke nonsense.

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And so I get the tech bros' concerns about that, that if you have to... In order to comply with Colorado statute, you have to change your algorithms. And so it creates a bad outcome. And so I'm not totally opposed to preemption. I get why they would want one rule of the road for them, but they have to have a rule of the road.

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839.397 - 858.083 Unknown

I mean, again, they have to address, at a minimum, they have to address the four Cs in order to make sure... As you know, Steve, we tried this with the tech pros. We gave them Section 230 amnesty, you know, 20 years ago or almost 20 years ago. And look what it led to.

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It led to Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple that that competition shuttered small businesses and canceled conservatives and others with whom they disagreed. They became these big tech platforms, became trillion dollar monopolists.

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that did the government's bidding and did the democrats but we're not going to let that happen again and so we're going to proceed more cautiously more smartly with ai with ai than we did under section 230 and i think that this is a framework hang on for one second we'll take a short break mike davis the viceroy that artificial intelligence next

900.245 - 929.579 Steve Bannon

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Chapter 3: What are the potential job impacts of AI advancements?

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have been around Washington, D.C. or the legislative process very much. And so this is probably a new thing for David Sachs to come to Washington and deal with the swamp. And again, I do think he's trying to work with us in good faith. I don't think he's a bad person. I actually kind of like him. I disagree with him. I disagree with him on all this tech bro stuff, but he's not a bad guy.

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1094.425 - 1112.685 Steve Bannon

So in the 100 pages of proposals you gave them, your point is it was too late to incorporate that into what they were trying to do with the NDA. So they stepped back. This process, you're highly confident that because the 100 pages is just a start, but it's pretty substantive on the four Cs.

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1112.925 - 1124.297 Steve Bannon

You believe or you're comfortable telling the audience that some version of this you believe is going to be in there and you're going to have to do it anyway or DeSantis and these guys are going to be taking it to court and slowing it down?

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Well, I mean, if they don't address the four Cs, they're not going to get federal preemption because we'll crush them again like we did the last two times. And I told them that. I said, if you want preemption, you're going to address the four Cs. Otherwise, you're not going to get preemption. So they get it.

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And I think that unless they have our blessings with the Article III project in the war room, I don't see any path where any legislation would pass.

1156.458 - 1168.332 Steve Bannon

I want to shift to Tina Peters for a second, because you've been, the vice chair has been one of the folks working on this also with many, many other people. President Trump did go through the pardon process on a federal level.

1168.913 - 1184.372 Steve Bannon

And of course, immediately, I think he had the attorney general, we played it in the cold open, saying this is irrelevant, this is a state, but it's much more complicated than that. Is it not, Mike, and there are alternatives people are pursuing right now to make sure that we can free Tina Peters?

1185.247 - 1215.039 Unknown

It is outrageous what is happening to Tina Peters. She was a county clerk in Colorado, again, where I live, and the Democrats Attorney General Phil Weiser and the Democrats Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, two partisan monsters, teamed up with the local DA and this local judge, and they put Tina Peters... in prison for nine years.

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And they can come up with any excuse they want for doing this, but it came down to this. Fina Peters questioned election results. And these Democrat operatives and their weak Republican rhinos who went along with this, that's what it comes down to. This is a malicious prosecution. It is heartless. It is inhumane. it's just awful. She was a 69-year-old woman who they put in prison for nine years.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Trump face with the Republican establishment?

1413.582 - 1417.467 Steve Bannon

Mike, one last topic. And thank you for taking time away to join us by phone.

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Chapter 5: How does the case of Tina Peters illustrate issues in the justice system?

1417.507 - 1437.531 Steve Bannon

But you saw what happened in Indianapolis last night. But this is inextricably linked with the progress we're making on getting legislation and nominees. We got Mark Walker, who's going to be on the show right after you bounce. That's been, I think, eight or nine months and hasn't been confirmed yet. This issue about blue slips.

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1437.511 - 1453.883 Steve Bannon

And I know Senator Grassley is working through this right now, but this issue about blue slips and the issue about the filibuster, because and I think President Trump has been adamant about this. Unless some things change, he's not going to be able to implement.

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1453.863 - 1479.246 Steve Bannon

uh his plan and you got both the blue slips for the judges and really for the u.s attorneys uh and you've got this uh you got the situation the filibuster can you take the blue slips uh first and explain what it is to the audience and why president once changes and why he's so upset about it look and i get that i've been fighting with people all night on acts and all morning on this issue i hate blue slips i got rid of blue slips or circuit judges

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When I was the chief counsel for nominations eight years ago, when I worked for Senator Grassley, we got rid of blue slips for circuit judges. And so that's how President Trump was able to confirm a record number of circuit judges. I tried to get rid of blue slips for U.S. Attorney, U.S. District Court, U.S.

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1496.738 - 1523.189 Unknown

Marshal, but there was way too much opposition in the Senate to getting rid of those, including from too many Republicans. And that's the issue. What angers me is when people are blaming this on Chuck Grassley, my old boss. This is not a Chuck Grassley problem. It is a Senate Republican problem. And so what needs to happen is if we want to get rid of these blue slips for U.S. attorney, U.S.

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district court, U.S. marshal, John Thune needs to work with the Trump White House and round up 50 signatures, at least 50 signatures from Senate Republicans, including every Senate Judiciary Republican saying that they will vote to confirm U.S. Attorney, U.S. District Court, U.S. Marshal nominees who lack blue slips, right? That is going to be a very tall order because here's the problem.

1553.699 - 1579.23 Unknown

Too many Senate Republicans do not want to give up their blue slip now. So it's But to blame Grassley for this is what really pisses me off because it's not Grassley's fault. He doesn't have the votes. If you have Senator John Kennedy, for example, or Senator Tom Tillis saying they're going to vote against these nominees who like loose lips, then Grassley can't get them out of the committee.

1580.088 - 1592.367 Steve Bannon

But by the way, just for the audience, blue slips is the way that senators in their states for U.S. attorneys, U.S. marshals, and certain judges can actually override the president's choice, correct?

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I hate blue slips. It's a BS, 100-year-old bus tradition in the Senate where home state senators get an absolute veto over the president's pick and for U.S. attorney, U.S. district court, U.S. marshal. And again, I say this somewhat jokingly, but it's not really a joke. These home state senators do not want to give up the ability to hand select the U.S. attorney who could prosecute them, the U.S.

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