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WarRoom Battleground EP 928: Nigel Farage Gains From Tory Implosion And How Human Brain Neuro-Structure Influences Politics
16 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What are the implications of the Tory Party's recent defections?
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Chapter 2: How does Nigel Farage benefit from the Tory Party's struggles?
Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
Friday, 16th of January, Anno Domini, 2000. And 26th, Hanwell here at the helm at Steve Bannon's War Room.
Chapter 3: What does the resignation of Robert Jenrick signify for the Conservative Party?
It's been a tough week for the British Conservative Party, called the oldest political party in the world. They've had two serious defections this week. We're going to talk about it now with Joseph Robertson. Joseph, welcome back on to the show. So let's talk about Robert Jenrick's resignation first, even though I guess he is slightly less in status as a shadow president. Justice Secretary.
But I think that's the one that's taken more as a stab in the back. Kemi Badenoch, I think, I don't know how she's going to be able to make the proposition to the British public that she's a Conservative Prime Minister in waiting if someone like Robert Jenrick basically defects to reform, which is what he's done today.
Before you go into this, let's just have a quick view of what he said right now.
I challenge anyone to argue other than that Britain is completely broken. Those that came before us built a great country, the greatest country in the world, but we are set to lose it. We will, for certain, if this government gets re-elected. I can't kid myself anymore. The party hasn't changed and it won't. The bulk of the party don't get it.
They don't have the stomach for the radical change that Britain needs.
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Chapter 4: What role does the human brain play in political leadership?
In opposition, it's easy to paper over these cracks. But the divisions, the delusions are still there. And if we don't get the next government right, Britain will likely slip beyond the point of repair. Everything is on this.
Everything is on this decision. by Kimmy Badenoch. He was the Shadow Justice Secretary, Shadow Chancellor, Shadow Lord Chancellor.
I have reservations about reform at this point in time taking on Tory defectors, but I get the political point that this is illustrating, this is Nigel Farage illustrating to the country that the Tory leadership, Tory leader, Kemi Badenoch, has lost the confidence of her most senior parliamentarians, her most senior shadow cabinet colleagues.
And therefore, it's going to be difficult for her to say, I'm ready to be prime minister if those who work closest with her have lost confidence. It wasn't a surprise. We knew this yesterday. As I say, Kemi Bagnuk sacked him, anticipating with irrefutable proof that he was about to defect. So the news wasn't
Chapter 5: How does social hierarchy influence political dynamics?
uh today totally shocking but give me your first reaction to it please well and thanks for having me on again ben i think um you know politics in britain tends to go as we've seen in in sort of 100 year or 50 year cycles um there have been previous movements that have risen up or displaced the major party
achieve getting into power or when they do as we saw with the replacement of the Liberal Party you know the branching out between Whigs and Tories when that happens which happened last 100 years ago parties tend to disappear sometimes into a third or fourth position and we've only really got one or two examples of it in our history and nothing quite on this scale.
I tend to lean towards jubilance at this news, not necessarily because, as you've outlined, you don't want reform to seem like Tory Party 2.0. That's certainly not why I joined reform and why many others did so in the past. But I think what we do need to recognise is that you can't really spell history without the word Tory.
And unfortunately, until the unit party is broken properly, and by that I mean the absolute demolition of the so-called right-wing Conservative Party, which actually has been more to the left of Blair for the last 15 years, you can't really achieve any progress. I think Jenrick said it very well that there's no appetite
for the type of radical change that is needed in this country in that party anymore and so anything that hastens that demise I think is important.
um yeah i think that's that's a that's a good reading of this um so let's not just zoom back ever so slightly i mentioned this week's been tough for kemi badanuk um robert jenrick wasn't her only defection um earlier on in the week nadine zahawi who was the former chancellor
of the Exchequer for an American audience, that's basically the Treasury Secretary, Finance Minister, considered to be one of the three great offices of state. And he was only there for like a couple of months.
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Chapter 6: What are the trends in Generation Z's political affiliations?
I think he did slightly longer as Chancellor as Liz Truss did as Prime Minister. But still, again, it's an emotional blow to the credibility of the Tory party to lose a former Chancellor. to a party that's nipping at your heels. What's your reading of Zahawi, by the way, Joseph?
So, I mean, Nadeem, I think first point to make is that he's unelected and will remain so unless he happens to go through party process and reform and become an elected official, which would mean that it'd have to be acceptable to the membership as well as other things, other tests that from every candidate before they run. So that's the first point to make.
I think for me, he has done exceptionally well in business and in other areas outside of politics. I know he carries political baggage. I certainly didn't agree with the way he handled, for instance, passports,
Chapter 7: How does the concept of monarchy relate to modern political leadership?
That kind of thing. There's a lot of disgruntled noises from some factions, particularly libertarian factions, who feel that he was unfair to those. However, what I would say is that he correctly sided with Liz Truss when she came into power. He understands economics very well. And the overall, you can't ignore someone like that when you look at their business acumen.
And I would also say, really, you know, looking at the GOP, Those positions that maybe were, you know, on the fringes of the MAGA movement are not popular. Many of those people have come into the fold over the years as the movement develops. I think that's something you've got to learn and understand as you mature as a political movement.
Chapter 8: What is the future of the Tory Party amidst these changes?
And so Reform's trying to do the same. It's a huge blow to Kemi because behind the scenes, I mean, he used to work with a lot of Tory donors. He has, like I said, an immense business acumen. So I think both of these defections are going to hit her very hard. And I would say both of them are net positives for reform, whatever people may think of the individuals.
Yeah. To some extent, it's a little bit, I get, you know, trying to be dispassionate about this, trying to read this objectively. I understand why reform took them both, because at this point it's basically any stick with which to beat the Tories. Now, it's been like a couple of decades since I was a member of the Tory party. But I would like, you know, I certainly don't support them.
It's been a long time since I voted for them. But I would like to try to be objective about my reading of their situation. I don't know where they go now, because it's clear that Kemi Bagnoch isn't doing, she's not up to the job. I think that's clear. And yet Robert Jenrick was probably the only person who had
perhaps the credibility with the voters who are peeling off towards reform to have tried to be an alternative. He was in fact a leadership, her leadership rival. He lost the last, it was last year, right? He lost to her when they both went, challenged one another for the leadership of the Tory party.
Just try, if you wouldn't mind, try to be, along with me here, try out, because we're both supporting reform, try to help me be objective in this and dispassionate, looking at it from the Tory party's view. Where do they go from now when they're one possible alternative to the failing Kemi Kemi Badenoch has jumped ship. Who do they go to? Who could possibly? Because I don't see anybody.
And I'd like to know what your reading of this is. What do they do now when their one credible alternative has thrown his cards down on the table and said, right, that's it. Fold. I'm out.
So I think that while the situation is dire, they do have one or two cards left on the table. So there are people like Katie Lamb coming through. I am, you know, the jury's out on whether or not she is as good as she says she is. Obviously, she has, you know, some associations with people in the Tory party that I consider to be on the left, despite what she
she says, being more to the right of the party. But they do have some younger MPs. I think what will happen is if we see, let's say, a Katie Lamb or, you know, indeed, a Suela Braverman, etc., defecting to reform in the next few days or weeks, then that will truly be the end, because that will be all of your options off the table for anybody with any talent in the party to come through.
And that will basically be the litmus test. As long as they sort of have this switcheroo going on between James Cleverley and Kemi Badenoch, both establishment candidates, both essentially run by the same vested interests that control the rest of the Tory party, there is not much hope, quite frankly. And there's one thing I've got to say, which is that there's no youth movement in the Tory party.
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