Chapter 1: What is the main topic of the podcast episode?
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Hashtag Dork.
My name is Rich Keefe, joined as always by Davey Eyeballs. He is Rockwell Von Dockwell. All hail the King of Ginger Ale.
It's Ryan Davey. Davey, how are you? Just doing fine. Just strawberries and champagne over here. How are you?
You know what that sound means? That means we have a guest on our hands and it's none other than Rob Bradford from the Baseball Isn't Boring podcast making his hashtag dork debut.
Bradfo, how are you? This is such a much more highly produced podcast. there when you hear a doorknob or doorbell led by mrs doubtfire saying hello that means we have another guest and it's not another hello lucas how are you all right can i can i ask lucas something lucas which is which you like better my introduction or that introduction this is way better come on man
Who in the world would I rather talk to right now than Keef and Davey here?
This is the place to be. Well, it's actually a funny story. So Bradford texts me and he goes, hey, he's like, Lucas wants to come on the Dork Podcast and talk about Marty Supreme, but you have to have me on too. And I was like, that's great. I go, you guys are in. I go, when do you want to do it? And I'm like, I go, do you want to do it next week? Like Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday?
And Bradfo goes, Yeah, maybe Wednesday because maybe Lucas will have seen the movie by then. And I was like, wait a minute. So he wants to talk about the movie, hasn't even seen the movie yet. But either way, we're here. You saw it. We do as we do, spoiler free to start. Okay. We ask very simply, Lucas, and you can go first. Very simply, did you like it?
Oh, yeah.
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Chapter 2: How do the hosts feel about the movie Marty Supreme before spoilers?
So I watched it recently and it's like, it's him and army hammer. Uh, it's, it's a Luca Guadagnino movie. Who's did another movie with him and it called bones and all where I, what I've not seen where he plays like a cannibal and love. Oh man.
I was aware of it. I knew the buzz. I knew the story around it. It just one of those never floated through my transom as it were.
The Dune movies, however, are incredible. I love the Dune movies. And he is so much better because he plays all these different type of characters. And I never thought he could play a true badass leader of an army. And that's what he does in Dune. He pulls it off, too. He's tough.
I saw the clip, a clip of the scene where he's like doing the big pump up speech and he's speaking the foreign language and all that kind of stuff. And it was really great. Um, I want to watch in the, the reason I haven't watched the dune movies yet is because they had their theater run and I wasn't paying attention.
And then, I mean, you can stream them, whatever now, but I like, don't want to watch it on TV. I want to watch it in an IMAX theater. And I don't know like when I'll ever get that opportunity.
Oh, I wonder if, cause the third one's coming out this year. I bet some places will show them all. I wouldn't be.
Can I ask you guys a question about him? Is this of the movies that allowed him to take the biggest step in his career? What would it be? And I wouldn't make the argument that it was this movie. Not necessarily because of box office, but because of the awards and because of how good he was. Like, you could say, what? You could say Dune. You could say, obviously, you could say the Dylan movie.
But I feel like this one was, holy crap. This guy can do it all.
I think for me, the issue with this, for his other movies, clearly characters that you're supposed to be rooting for. And this one, I was going back and forth the whole movie, whether or not I wanted this kid to succeed, whether I wanted him to fall flat on his face, whether I wanted him to get shot. And I think that speaks to the talent of the actor is that I'm engaged the entire time.
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Chapter 3: What are the standout performances in Marty Supreme?
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is. I mean, so it's 1950s New York. You have a guy in his 20s who wants to be a table tennis champion. Nobody else really in the world cares about table tennis for the most part. I mean, is rounders a sport?
Yeah. On ESPN.
Yeah, right. World Series of Poker.
Yeah, I mean, I think, Lucas, you nailed it. It's... it's based around a sport. Yeah. And I know I, I said on the radio is one of the greatest sports movies of all time, but maybe that was just to get wiggy mad, but it's, um, but I, I think I, I have to agree with, I have to agree with you, Lucas.
I mean, I think it's, it's based around something that is perceived as a sport, but you know, obviously part of the theme of it is like, he keeps convincing people. It's a sport. It's a sport. It's a sport. Yeah. And yeah, I guess.
George Gervin's in it. Iceman.
Dude, some of the people in this movie is wild.
Oh, my God. Yeah. Tracy McGrady. Kemba Walker. Kemba Walker.
Yeah. Kemba Walker, the Iceman. I'm not a Shark Tank person, but I'm obviously aware of Shark Tank. And so... Kevin O'Leary showed up. I'm like, is that the shark tank guy?
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Chapter 4: How does Timothee Chalamet's character evolve throughout the movie?
And then you're just like, is this going to end in a way where it's just going to continue this trend of this guy just falling into terrible, terrible things? And then ultimately at the very end, it's not a terribly terrible thing. It's actually setting up for Marty Supreme 2. I'm going to look forward to that very much.
Electric Boogaloo. I don't know about that.
When his child is grown into a 10-year-old. But yeah, you know what I mean? I don't know what I'm supposed to say, reveal, whatever. Say whatever you want. I think that's it. At the end, I think it's a happy ending for Chalamet's character.
So I guess my question would be, will he stick around? We've seen this guy. I don't know if you can trust this guy. And the one character that I think I found myself rooting for the entire time was his girlfriend, Rachel Meisler. I was rooting for her. I felt like he didn't really care about her at all. It was second, third, fourth priority for him. All he cared about was ping pong.
he was like, I mean, I guess relatively nice to her at times, but then also like, I don't know. Now all of a sudden he shows up, he's crying at the end. He sees his kid, but five days from now, if someone's like, Hey, we got a big tournament. You got to come across the world. Like he's going to leave.
I felt, well, it does. It does make you think like, I agree. What happens now? How do you support the child? Will he, will he be in the kid's life? Do you think? Yeah, I don't, we don't care. We're walking out of the theater. We, we literally don't care.
It's I, I, I really liked the ending, but I, at the same time, like six different ways they could have ended the movie popped in my head. Um, I saw Kevin O'Leary was quoted as saying like, I hate this ending. They, you know, it should have ended with him getting like a bullet in his head or his, or his girlfriend dies in childbirth. I'm like, okay, that's a little, that's a little too much.
Like, you know, on uncut gems, uncut gems had, I mean, he, he gets shot and killed. Right. That's the ending. If I'm, if I'm right. Yeah. Um, I thought that was fitting.
uh i thought the ending for this movie was also fitting i just thought the way that they were gonna get there was gonna be a little different like when he's uh in in the real match against the the japanese player you know after he like begs and pleads he's like oh come on like let me play for real and they're playing the real match and they do that. They had the shot of like him playing.
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Chapter 5: What themes are explored in the relationship dynamics of the characters?
Right.
When he was going up against that walrus or whatever, just good stuff.
His friend was like, these are some of the best athletes in the world. And he's like, I don't give a shit. And then like, he's trying to justify what he's doing. He's like, these are some of the best athletes in the world. Like the same thing the other guy said. Yeah.
It was the same thing when Kevin O'Leary's character, Milton Rockwell, went to him. He was like, I want to do this. He was like, no way. I'm not doing that. I'm not going to lose. And then he's like, oh, I'm like $1,500 in the hole. He's like, I can't get to Japan. I can't even do this. So he comes crawling back both times. He was banking for it. Yeah, and apparently... A real one.
A real spanking. He didn't want a stunt butt, so it was real Chalamet. I thought it looked a little pink. That was his butt. They spanked him 40 minutes.
40 minutes straight, I think they said. The prop broke on the first swing, so they used a real paddle. That's what I read.
This was based on a real guy and what I was reading too. This really happened. They developed the ping pong paddle or the table tennis paddle with the foam or the rubber on it. Once they did that, he just didn't want to do it anymore. He thought it was cheating.
It's like a torpedo bat.
Yeah. And he was like, yeah, he was like, he wound up winning like the, the U S open of table tennis when he was like in his sixties.
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Chapter 6: How does the cinematography contribute to the storytelling in Marty Supreme?
She's like, pens. He's like, pens? He's in charge of a pen company?
Well, what's the scene where he's the least confident? The scene where he isn't like, he's totally dropped all his bravado was when she came to the door, the hotel room door, and he answers, and she's in there in a fur coat with just, like, the nightie underneath, and he's, like, he all of a sudden becomes this 120-pound insecure guy, like, what is going on?
Yeah. That was good. Just him getting into that hotel, too, was a was a good scene. And that just him, like ordering a ton of room service and everything else. But just like the way he talks to her, too. And there's probably something about that where she's not used to hearing that either. So she's on to that. Plus, like you said, she hates her husband.
There were these weird moments where I laughed out loud, too. And then one of them was like, she's giving him a hard like the bit they had just finished their shower scene. And he's like, well, what are you going to do now? He's like, I'm going to wait till you leave. And then I'm going to order a bunch of room service. And then I'm going to eat it. And then I'm going to leave.
like i was like i was like yeah yeah just all the balls on this guy oh yeah yeah because she's trying to have an adult conversation with him like what are you doing you know you're how are you gonna you know where are you gonna live how are you gonna eat well i was about to call room service yeah i like that point you made though uh raw like the
how he, that's like one of the little glimpses you get into like, you know, this is a, this is a boy, this is a 23 year old, you know, boy that hasn't grown up yet. Yet he's, he's put on this performance for the world. Um, and then, you know, you get to see it at the very end too, when he's just bawling his eyes out, looking at his son or daughter or whatever.
Yeah. And this is, there's another one too, where he's looking at Rachel when she gets shot and, Like, and he's making his way back to the car to like help her. And she kept saying like, the money's in his pocket, go get it, go get it. So even as she shot, like her child is in, she's eight months pregnant. She still wants it.
And he like, kind of like looks at it, like turns his head and like, kind of like looks at it. Like, what are you talking about? It's like, go get it.
It's in his pocket. I believe the term is ride or die, and that's what she is very much so. For sure. Big time. Another thing I like, and I was trying to think of movies that do this versus movies that don't, but the main character, I feel like a lot of movies you have to wait a little bit to see. Maybe it's 10 minutes. Maybe it's 15 minutes. Maybe it's five.
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