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Baseball Isn’t Boring

The Fascinating World Of New Nationals Boss Paul Toboni

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 3.075 Paul Toboni

Yeah, there should be some passion. This doesn't have to be boring.

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3.316 - 10.446 Rob Radford

You don't get bored by baseball. Okay, one thing the game needs is more people like you. You. You. You. You. You. You.

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11.868 - 20.2 Paul Toboni

You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You.

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20.18 - 31.067 Rob Radford

Welcome to Baseball Isn't Boring. Here's your host, Rob Radford. All right, there is absolutely no human being on the planet I would rather be talking to more than Paul Daboney.

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Chapter 2: What insights does Paul Toboni share about his new role with the Nationals?

31.722 - 35.026 Rob Radford

Thank you, my friend. It's always good to see your smiling face.

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35.707 - 40.572 Paul Toboni

Yeah. No, good seeing you as well. That's a lie, by the way. There's no way I'm number one, but that's all right.

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40.632 - 57.932 Rob Radford

You are absolutely number one, number one. And, you know, I do like, here's the thing, Paul, is that I do like you are such a good human being. And I know this because when you walk out into the public eye, people look forward to seeing you.

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60.629 - 69.984 Paul Toboni

No, thanks for saying that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. It's OK.

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71.386 - 98.106 Rob Radford

Listen, I think it's important to start a day with a compliment and when especially when it's deserved. So congratulations on everything. And, you know, I guess my my first thing, Paul, is it's a really cliche question, man, like being getting your new job. It's a lot, right? It's a lot of stuff. And that's why I really appreciate you taking the time here. But what was this being a lot?

98.407 - 111.021 Rob Radford

Is it what you thought it would be? You've been around baseball. You've been around front offices. You've been at the highest level of front offices and everything else. But building what you want to build on top of doing the job, is it what you thought it would be?

112.857 - 127.558 Paul Toboni

I think so. Yeah. I mean, there are subtle differences, but for the most part, I think it's what I thought it would be. And I mean, I don't think it's a mystery. Like these jobs are pretty demanding. You know what I mean? Maybe if anything, I think you're.

128.433 - 141.833 Paul Toboni

you know, dragged in is probably the wrong way to put it, but you have more obligation outside of like the baseball obligations, um, that, um, maybe I just, I didn't quite empathize with enough, uh, but that's all part of it. You know what I mean?

141.893 - 157.596 Paul Toboni

And, um, the baseball side, obviously it takes priority and, and that's where like, you know, 90% of your, your, um, time is spent, but at the same time, you know, like the, the remaining 10 or 20% doing the non-baseball stuff like that's, it's really important. And, uh,

Chapter 3: How does Paul Toboni assess the current state of the Nationals organization?

231.168 - 232.87 Paul Toboni

But it's – I mean, it's a big part of it.

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233.692 - 249.654 Rob Radford

Well, you know, and you go to – let's talk about like when you hired Drew Butera. I mean, I don't know – The interview process for managers fascinates me. I think I may have talked to you about that. Speaking of Kevin, it all comes back to Kevin Cash. Congratulations, Kevin.

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250.514 - 271.873 Rob Radford

But, you know, I always cite the six-hour interview that they did, the Cleveland at the time, I think, did for Kevin when he was to prepare him for the interview. When you went into the interview with Drew and other candidates, how much of it was the other stuff that maybe isn't like, okay, what do you do here, second and third, you know?

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271.853 - 281.307 Rob Radford

how much of the other stuff is because like you said, like you have to have a guy who understands that and also can handle that stuff.

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281.327 - 300.091 Paul Toboni

Yeah, I would actually, I mean, everyone views this differently, I think, but I would actually argue that more than 50% of the, the, the process of like selecting, uh, you know, whoever it is that you select, like it has to do with the quality of person they are and the quality of leader they are. Right. Uh, the, the, all the in-game strategy.

300.111 - 322.213 Paul Toboni

And, uh, I know there's a lot of, uh, attention page that it's, it's so important. Don't get me wrong. Right. But, um, you know, nowadays I think we have like, there's so much information, right? Like we just have a lot of, uh, tools that we can put together to help support these guys in their positions. And not only that, like we can support them with other people on the bench too. Right.

322.293 - 342.833 Paul Toboni

So, um, our bench coach, Michael Johns has been around the game for a long period of time. Right. And he can help Blake in that respect. And, um, but you know, it goes back to what I initially said, like, uh, part of the reason why I, and why we were so drawn to Blake was, uh, the fact that he is an unbelievable person. He's commanded the respect of, uh,

344.112 - 363.708 Paul Toboni

so many people in the game, so many different types of people from different types of backgrounds too. You talk about like the, You know, the young 22 year old analyst that's a whiz kid. Right. And then the, you know, 75 year old coach that's been in the game for 50 years. Like Blake has great relationships with all those people. Right.

363.929 - 388.423 Paul Toboni

And he's just got a really uncanny ability to to connect with folks and then to to hold a high standard and to to hold people accountable to that standard. So and then. Those without saying, like he comes from a baseball family and his dad was a longtime coach or is a longtime coach in Louisiana. I love talking the game with them. You know, I think he sees the game really, really well.

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