Let's talk about Hegseth, giving quarter, checklists, and questions....
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What is Hegseth's controversial statement about giving no quarter?
Well, howdy there internet people, it's Belle again. So today, we're going to talk about Hegseth, giving quarter, checklists, and questions. After the recent video about Hegseth's comment and the three-time Trump voting Marine vet, who is apparently done with the entire Republican party over the comment, a bunch of questions came in about the checklist and the concept of no quarter. If you missed all of this, the Secretary of Defense said, quote, we will keep pressing, keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for our enemy. So one of the questions that came in over and over is a simple one. What is no quarter and is it illegal? Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, that's one of the senators the administration was super mad at for reminding troops of their duty to disobey unlawful orders, said, quote, No quarter isn't some wannabe tough guy line.
It means something. In order to give no quarter would mean to take no prisoners and kill them instead.
What does 'no quarter' mean and is it illegal?
That would violate the law of armed conflict. It would be an illegal order. It would also put American service members at greater risk. Pete Hegg says should know better than to throw around terms like this. It is also, quote, especially forbidden to declare that no quarter will be given. No quarter is prohibited in a ton of other ways and places as well. Just Security actually put out what they called a hypothetical legal advice to SecDef Hegseth on no quarter statement. If you want a pretty full breakdown, it's worth the read. I'll put the link down below.
How do military checklists relate to Hegseth's comments?
Just in the first paragraph of the mock-up of a memo to Hegseth, it lists out just a couple of laws that may be at issue and then says, quote, We recommend that you publicly retract this statement immediately and to clarify to all subordinates within the DOW that under no circumstances shall U.S. forces order, threaten, or tolerate no quarter with respect to Iranian combatants under penalty of criminal investigation and potential prosecution. For those who already got your talking point that he didn't give an order, The same laws prohibit just threatening it. But you arguing that misses the point entirely and shows what's important to you. Your party's political fortunes are what matters. Hegsa's statement will affect Iranian policy toward captured pilots or Marines.
As is typically the case, you'll support the troops, as long as you can use them as a prop. Their lives mean nothing if it hurts the Poles, right?
What cultural perceptions exist around military forces and surrender?
At least take your hat off at the transfer next time. Then we got a bunch of questions about what checklists the Marine joked about. There is a lot of dark humor in military and veteran communities. The Geneva Conventions are sometimes referred to as the Geneva Checklist, which often just gets shortened to the checklist. It's probably most used in the context of pointing out how brutal Canadian or French forces can be, but gets used in other ways as well. For Americans, the stereotype about French forces always surrendering doesn't exist in other parts of the world. Their forces have a bit of a reputation from the 1900s. When Americans make the jokes about themselves, it's typically a deep historical cut, or kind of gets teamed up with another American military meme.
Something like, they touched our boats, go get the checklist back from Poland. These jokes are sometimes in bad taste, but they aren't said in public by a SecDef who said he wanted maximum lethality, not tepid legality.
How might Hegseth's statement impact U.S. military operations?
Again, indicating a disregard for the laws of armed conflict. This will come back to hurt U.S. forces. When it comes to SecDef statements, there's a lot of people trying to act like it was okay. It really wasn't, and can have a lot of really bad effects down the line. Anyway, it's just a thought. Y'all have a good day.
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5 chapters
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What is Hegseth's controversial statement about giving no quarter?
0:01–1:16
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What does 'no quarter' mean and is it illegal?
1:16–2:29
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How do military checklists relate to Hegseth's comments?
2:29–3:38
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What cultural perceptions exist around military forces and surrender?
3:38–4:55
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How might Hegseth's statement impact U.S. military operations?
4:55–5:19
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