Beau of The Fifth Column
Let's talk about Kelly, Hegseth, Trump, and not playing the game....
28 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Well, howdy there, Internet people. It's Belle again. So today, we're going to talk about Kelly, Hegseth, Trump, and not playing the game.
So, we got a question, and it's a solid question because it shows how liberals in the country want to use information and defend their position rather than simply saying the opposing position is factually wrong when that's probably the route that needs to be taken. Okay, so here's the message, and it's a bit long, so stick with me. Quote, Can you suggest examples in which Trump or Hegseth, etc.
might have arguably been accused of issuing illegal orders? In more detail, concerning Trump's insane attacks on Mark Kelly and others, the main defense currently being thrown up by the right-wingosphere is that Trump hasn't issued any illegal orders. Therefore, Kelly and the others have told military members that they should disobey legal orders. Therefore, sedition, etc., etc.,
I understand that this is all just an effort to deflect the discussion away from what Kelly, etc. actually said and the justifiability of their actions.
Chapter 2: How do Trump and Hegseth's actions relate to illegal orders?
But in an effort to talk to relatives, friends, etc. who listen to this garbage, can you offer us some rhetorical ammunition slash evidence to point to illegal activities Trump and company have done in this regard? First, let's break down what's happening. You know it's deflection, but you want to defend against the deflection.
You know they never told troops to disobey a lawful order and specified unlawful orders, just like the training troops routinely get says. So why play their game? At its core, this argument is summed up by the misunderstanding of how and why the military trains the way it does.
Imagine somebody saying, well, these troops have never been ambushed, so let's wait until that happens before we train those who are left how to deal with it. These troops have never been hit with a C-Burn threat. We don't need mock training. Sorry, in English, the troops have never been hit with chemicals. Let's wait for that to happen before teaching them how to use their mask.
Well, they've never had to deal with one-way drones before. There's no point in training them how to deal with it. Do you see how crazy their position is? The reason the military trains people on their duty to disobey unlawful orders and the reason it is literally embedded in the oath of enlistment is that they have to be ready to disobey any unlawful order before the order comes down.
It doesn't do any good to wait for the unlawful order to be given to start explaining that they have a duty to disobey it. Because if they don't know of that duty, they would immediately obey the unlawful order. Like most things in the military, you train before the situation arises.
The argument of wait until somebody gives you an unlawful order to train on the duty to disobey is arguing to make sure our troops are unprepared. It's also important to remember that orders are assumed to be lawful unless they are manifestly or patently unlawful. That means it's unlawful and there is zero nuance.
Corporal Smith isn't going to refuse a lawful order because some Congress people made a video. The same way Corporal Smith hasn't refused a lawful order because of their oath of enlistment or their constant training they've received.
There are questionable orders that have been given according to the experts, and you could point to those, like the military attorney who raised the questions about the operations down south. But then you're failing to show them that the people they're getting their talking point from are misleading them about the very nature of the military. You build the ark before the storm.
Anyway, it's just a thought. Y'all have a good day.
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