The Roads to Ruining Thanksgiving 2025 edition
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What is the episode’s main premise about “ruining” Thanksgiving conversations?
Well, howdy there internet people it spell again. And welcome to the Roads with Bows. Today is november thirteenth. And we are carrying on a channel tradition that goes back years. and discussing the roads to ruining Thanksgiving Dinner. Obviously, it's not really about ruining Thanksgiving dinner. It's about the conversations that often occur at holiday meals during our current polarized political climate. When you are faced with people who can't change their minds and won't change the subject. So Most years we give specific responses to questions, and we'll still do that this year. We have another Thursday episode between now and then. So if you have any questions, feel free to send them in or post them below.
Okay. So today we're going to talk about how to deal with their jokes, how to deflate their culture war rage, and we're going to talk about where the topics your red hat wearing uncle typically brings up actually come from.
Why do conservative family members repeat talking points from Fox and Truth Social?
First one last. Where does it come from? The answer's pretty simple. Most times it's Fox or Truth Social. Because of the shutdown and because of Trump's bizarre economic claims, if Thanksgiving was today, you'd already have seen a bunch of videos debunking the popular talking points that your relative would be bringing up. But it's a Trump administration, and things move quickly. So there's no way of knowing for sure if that will be the case in two weeks. If you were to watch a conservative outlet the day before Thanksgiving, you'd hear everything Uncle Bob was going to bring up. It's sad, but it's generally true. The thing is, Trumpian messaging has gotten very simple. Overly simple. He and his media allies know that the audience is in an information silo, and that generally they don't hear other viewpoints.
I know some of the conservatives in the comments who watch the show are making faces and typing, not all conservatives. Sure, that's true.
How can you fact‑check Uncle Bob’s claims about SNAP and the economy?
But let's be real, even if you are a Republican watching this channel. I guess you probably don't own a red hat. Probably don't trash your gay niece at a family dinner. And you probably aren't completely obnoxious during political discussions. Unless, of course, you're one of the few hate watchers, in which case, yes, you too. But generally speaking, the conservatives we're talking about only get their news from outlets that the party told them were acceptable. The thing is, that echo chamber effect has made the talking points lazier and lazier, and sloppier and sloppier. Many of the claims being circulated right now are rehashes of already debunked claims. Trump just repeated the claim that Biden caused SNAP to get more expensive.
We did a video on that already. The cost of SNAP peaked in 2021, after shooting up from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, and twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. Trump was president for the majority of that, and the increases occurred because of laws Trump signed in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty. He's added a new thing, saying that the costs went up because Biden just let anybody get it. So there's more participants?
What strategies help deflate culture‑war jokes at the dinner table?
Cool. Except that didn't happen. I'll put a link down below. It'll be table A one in the congressional report. Between Trump and Biden, Trump actually had the highest monthly average. It was twenty seventeen, with forty two million three hundred seventeen thousand as a monthly average. Biden's highest was a couple hundred thousand less than that in twenty twenty three. But to be honest, as far as average monthly SNAP participants, they're actually both millions below the trend that started in twenty eleven. In the recovery of the Great Recession, you just didn't see numbers below forty four million. Sometimes it got as high as forty seven million. So you could have that chart pulled up in a tab on your phone, ready to hand Uncle Bob as soon as he makes the claim.
Then just follow up with Trump lied and your news sources let him. The other thing is that sometimes the claims are just legitimately truly made up. I'm sure at least one of you will hear about Trump's claim that Obama is getting royalties from the ACA.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the episode’s main premise about “ruining” Thanksgiving conversations?
0:01–1:12
2
Why do conservative family members repeat talking points from Fox and Truth Social?
1:12–2:24
3
How can you fact‑check Uncle Bob’s claims about SNAP and the economy?
2:24–3:52
4
What strategies help deflate culture‑war jokes at the dinner table?
3:52–5:10
5
Why does asking someone to explain a “joke” expose propaganda tactics?
5:10–6:10
6
How do you respond when relatives get angry about trans‑rights or library events?
6:10–7:00
7
What final advice does the host give for handling political arguments during holidays?
7:00–8:35
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