161 | Navigating Burnout and Career Identity in Athletic Training with Dr. Shelby Daly
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What is this crossover episode about and who are the hosts?
This is Becoming Undone. I love LinkedIn, but there's a lot of broad stroke stuff. And I obviously just finished my DAT in leadership, entrepreneurship and globalization. But it was all the positive things. When things are going well and nobody actually coaches or teaches you, well, what happens when it's not going well? How do you actually have a case study of this person's noncompliant? They're not doing what you're doing. There's pushback on how you're presenting ideas. The situations I keep encountering is I feel like I'm meeting people halfway, but I don't think people are meeting me halfway. I guess I'm always kind of in that extrovert category of all these disk tests and all these other nonsensical
measurables but you know I feel like I have to be selfish sometimes and be like well do I always have to meet everybody else and accommodate their things and I think that's where it's getting frustrated as I get further into my career and the profession of athletic training is I'm supposed to keep giving but when do I get to be given to.
Hey friend, I'm glad you're here. Welcome to yet another episode of Becoming Undone, the podcast for those who dare bravely risk mightily and grow relentlessly. I'm Toby Brooks, speaker, author, professor, and performance scientist. I spent much of the last two decades working as an athletic trainer and a strength coach in the professional, collegiate, and high school sports settings. And over the years, I've grown more and more fascinated with what sets high achievers apart and how failures that can suck in the moment can actually end up being exactly the push we needed to propel us on a path to success. Every week on Becoming Undone, I invite new guests to examine how high achievers can transform from falling apart to falling into place.
I'd like to emphasize that this show is entirely separate from my role at Baylor University, but it's my attempt to apply what I've learned and what I'm learning and to share with others about the mindsets of high achievers. You know, every once in a while, an episode comes along that doesn't fit the normal Becoming Undone format. And this one is one of those episodes. Today's conversation is a crossover with my friend, Dr. Shelby Daly, host of the To The Bone Sports Medicine Podcast. And instead of walking through Shelby's personal story in the usual way, we decided to open the door on a conversation that's been happening behind the scenes for quite a while. Shelby and I both spend a lot of time thinking, writing, posting, talking about athletic training, sports medicine, leadership, pay, burnout, professional identity, all the stuff that happens when people who care so much about their work start asking the hard questions about whether the system they serve is actually serving them back.
And we come at it from slightly different angles. Shelby's built her whole platform that speaks very directly to athletic trainers and sports medicine professionals from the ground up. I've spent more time talking more broadly about purpose and leadership and career drift and what happens when the thing you once loved starts costing you more than you expected. But underneath it all, we're both circling the same question. How do we keep people from burning out, checking out, or walking away from work that still matters? This episode is honest, and it's a little raw in places. It's not a polished list of solutions. It's definitely not a corporate leadership seminar that's dressed up like a podcast conversation.
It's two people who love the profession enough to critique it, who are frustrated enough to say some things out loud. and who still believe that there has to be a better way forward. We talk about the culture of always being available and the difference between coverage and performance, the rising cost of entry in athletic training, whether advanced credentials actually ever get rewarded, and the need for better business thinking in sports medicine. and why negative conversations seem to spread a lot faster than the constructive ones.
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