Plan for a long life, with Lynda Gratton
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She is the author of Living the 100-Year Life, How to Build a Career that Lasts and a Life You Love. Linda, welcome to the show. Thank you, Laura. I'm so excited to have you here. Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit more about yourself? I'm a professor
at London Business School. I'm a psychologist. I love helping people think about their working lives. And I love helping people think about how do I live to 100? Not so much the healthy part of it, but just what am I actually going to do with that time?
Because it is a lot of time. I mean, could many people listening to this reasonably expect to live to 100 now?
Yes. I mean, obviously, there's many variables. But actually, life expectancy has been increasing decade by decade for many, many years now. And so certainly, whereas my grandfather, the average age would have been 60, for my dad, it would have been 70. It's perfectly reasonable. You may think that you could live healthily into your 80s, maybe your 90s, perhaps even to 100.
So it's not outside the realm of possibilities. But how would we, I mean, one of the things you write about is how we would approach careers differently if we truly thought we were going to live to 100. I mean, what does that change if you think you are going to have a very long life?
Well, that's really the puzzle that I've been thinking about, Laura, for so many years. And here's the thing. The long life is a gift, right? but it does change the rules. And I've been wondering about, well, how could I talk to people about what a long life is? Because we think often about working lives as being ladders that we climb. And that over periods of time, you go from one run to another climbing up. But that's just not really working when you might be working until you're 70 or 80. So I've been thinking it less as a ladder and more as a weave, where we weave our lives.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–7:50
2
Who is Lynda Gratton and what is her background?
7:50–12:09
3
Why is a 100‑year life considered a realistic possibility today?
12:09–15:45
4
How does thinking about a 100‑year life change the way we plan our careers?
15:45–19:03
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What is the difference between a career “ladder” and a career “weave”?
19:03–20:47
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What are the eight “threads” that hold a long life together and how can we strengthen them?
20:47–34:12
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How can listeners use the free Life‑Threads diagnostic to identify weak areas?
34:12–35:16