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Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 202

04 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of SEIU 1000 in California?

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39.874 - 47.345 Robert Evans

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68.324 - 75.577 Camille Stewart Gloucester

Whether it is getting swatted or just hateful messages online, there is a lot of harm in even just reading the comments.

75.778 - 93.909 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

That's cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester on the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. Every season is a chance to grow. And the Therapy for Black Girls podcast is here to walk with you. I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and each week we dive into real conversations that help you move with more clarity and confidence.

94.47 - 107.511 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

This episode, we're breaking down what really happens to your information online and how to protect yourself with intention. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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The social media trend is landing some Gen Zers in jail. The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. And the massive TikTok boycott against Target that actually makes no sense. You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media.

Chapter 2: What unique challenges do Inland Empire workers face?

1515.108 - 1533.752 Robert Evans

Yeah. Like... Yes. We didn't gave up on that city. Yeah. It recently gone from 230,000 people to only 200,000 people, but also probably because a lot of people that left were the most impoverished people. Our poverty rate went from, let's say in the post Bush two recession, but 2010, we had a 30% poverty rate. We were, we were the most impoverished city in the state.

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1534.053 - 1536.756 Robert Evans

We've gotten down to like 17% poverty, which is still bad.

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Yeah.

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1537.237 - 1550.91 Robert Evans

You know, that's still almost one out of five people. What was it? It's very diverse. I mean, as someone who pays attention to politics, it has all the problems, exactly like you said, all the problems that people talk about when they see the important problems. It's post-industrial. There's gun violence. It's diverse. There's poverty.

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You know, there's environmental issues because it's such a warehouse empire. Yeah.

1554.218 - 1584.225 Robert Evans

uh because it's such a uh you know area of freight and warehouses it's like the air quality is some of the worst in the state yeah um you know we we have real problems you know we got real problems and in downtown downtown san bernardino is a lot of where the problems are we want to get it like downtown redlands and downtown riverside and some of the other nicer downtowns but it's just not there yet and there are people absolutely working on that and um like there are a couple alleyways in the city it sounds so it sounds so uh uh humble but we have a couple alleyways in the city that got um five hundred thousand dollar grants recently to kind of make them an arcs alleyway to kind of look like something more like

1584.205 - 1596.864 Robert Evans

Claremont village. Let's go, you know? And so, yeah, you know, and so we are always working on it and I will always, you know, as somebody who founded co-founded the Inland Empire music award show and other platforms that I put on, not just my art, but I helped put on other artists in the Inland.

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I will always tell you about the amazing tacos you could get in my city, the amazing small businesses you could support in my city, the amazing art community put on by my, by my OGs, like Judah one of Pomona, like Noah James of the Inland and Lisa J and, and many others, you know, who helped build a really beautiful, uh,

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ecosystem like there's there's please come to Samaritano and hit me up and I'll take you to safe beautiful parts of it you know but yes it's rough to your point I know I want you to get to the next thing but to your point that was the same as that picture of Compton to where it's like yes like in the sense that like we know it's dangerous we know there's poverty we know there's that but there's beauty here there's dope stuff you know and let me come like and again like just the hood rules where it's like well you and me

Chapter 3: How has the pandemic influenced union negotiations?

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We partnered with nonprofits and businesses. We throw a dope ass gala. Yeah. you know, award show at a little art center in downtown San Bernardino at the Garcia Center for the Arts where we give away real trophies and real awards and we have red carpet media and performances. It's like the Grammys for the Inland Empire. So, you know, please get involved in itsonlyempire.com.

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That's Only Empire Now. Fam Likely is my group with Diesel. We got a new album out that's like Scam Likely on your phone, but Fam Likely because it's likely that your fam is hitting you up.

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fan likely West Coast Avengers is my first group the more nerdcore Inland Empire stuff and we got an album that came out just under a year ago now The Harvest so I'm everywhere you can catch everything all over the place yeah Tangent Wiggle thank you so much my brother hey thank you man much love The social media trend that's landing some Gen Zers in jail.

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The progressive media darling whose public meltdown got her fired. I'm going to take Francesco off the network entirely. The massive TikTok boycott against Target that makes no actual sense.

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2072.665 - 2077.211 Camille Stewart Gloucester

I will continue getting stuff from Target and I will continue to not pay for it.

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And the MAGA influencers whose trip to the White House ended in embarrassment.

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So refreshing to have the press secretary after the last few years who's both intelligent and articulate.

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You won't hear about these online stories in the mainstream media, but you can keep up with them and all the other entertaining and outrageous things happening online, in media, and in politics with the Brad vs. Everyone podcast, hosted by me, Brad Palumbo.

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Every day of the week, I bring you on a wild ride through the most delulu takes on the internet, criticizing the extremes of both sides from an independent perspective. Join in on the insanity and listen to the Bread vs. Everyone podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 4: What realizations are people coming to about the current regime?

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Like now what do we do? So I think like A lot of the disjuncture and the confusion and the craziness feeling that people are having is because people are coming to those realizations on separate timelines. Because it's really hard to accept. It's a hard and complicated thing to feel and to recognize that actually, like, this is a dying regime and a dying empire. Yeah.

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And, like, that does not mean it's less dangerous. In fact, historically, it's often more dangerous in its death throes.

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Mm-hmm.

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4608.526 - 4627.311 Robert Evans

And it does not mean, when you and I talk about him being ineffective, it does not mean that the stuff he's doing isn't terrifying. We're both trans women who organize with other trans women. Like, we know about it, okay, y'all? Like, we are dealing with the fallout all the time. But, like, the situations that we could be going through

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Chapter 5: How does the discussion about Tylenol and autism unfold?

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the situations that they could be achieving that with the public that they were handed by the Biden administration that had broken solidarity around COVID that had created an effective red scare around Gaza that had like, you know, basically perpetuated two genocides and gotten liberals to like, say that that was normal and good. Right.

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4643.649 - 4662.946 Robert Evans

Like that was a very, very scary public to, to hand to Nazis to now with nukes. Right. And like, I think, You know, we do ourselves a disservice when the only fascist regimes we think about are Nazism and we think that, like, it's inevitably, like, going to be just like the Nazis. Or even if we just say, well, it could be more like Italy.

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Like, there are dozens of different dictatorships across the history. I don't expect everyone to study all of them, but, like, it's worth understanding. Learn a third one. Yeah.

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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the executive orders on Antifa?

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pick one literally pick one fucking anyone that's not the main two there are so many like you have you are spoiled for options exactly yeah yeah you can do you could do if you you know pick a decade you know you like the 70s go for suarto in indonesia you like the 80s brazilian military dictatorship no problem like or you could do korea in the 80s you got lots of choices oh the 50s go for greece no problem don't worry about it the reason that i bring all that up is just to say that like

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4697.542 - 4719.885 Robert Evans

Things are really bad. And if we don't throw down, this will successfully build an authoritarian fascist state eventually, just by the sheer inertia of the power that they have available and the time that they can wait. But as you're saying, and as I've been sort of seeing also, there's tremendous amounts of resistance. It is completely uncovered. It is not being seen.

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4719.945 - 4758.105 Robert Evans

But because they live in the spectacle that they themselves have made... Yeah. Yeah. But also, if they don't have the FBI's eyes on the ball, which they clearly don't anymore, they have redirected the FBI, they are not nearly as cognizant of what's going on in terms of resistance as they were even six months ago.

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No, like, if you look at the guy who shot Charlie Kirk, right, this is like, Charlie Kirk is like their guy. Right. The FBI is so stripped down right now that with a full court press, the only reason they caught that guy was because he didn't understand that discord wasn't private. And he like dropped his gun and didn't pick it up again. And his dad recognized it. Right.

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4778.532 - 4794.128 Robert Evans

And if he had done those two things, they wouldn't have found him like they didn't catch him. He turned himself in. Right. And that's again, someone assassinated like their guy and they couldn't find him like this repressive apparatus.

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It is really, really scary and very good at doing the thing that it's focused on doing right now, which is like dragging immigrant families from their homes at like five in the morning by blowing their fucking doors down and like dragging them away to a prison. Right. It's not good at anything else. Yeah.

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And the thing, right, that is a very, very good way to create an engine of, you know, like immense human misery that whose spectacle they can sell. But it's not actually a good way to hold together an authoritarian dictatorship. We have seen very, very successful sort of dictatorships in the last like 20, 30 years, right? Yeah. And, you know, like they take a bunch of forms.

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I think like the most classically like 1930s Nazi Party one is Modi in India. Yep. And Modi in India has done the thing in the sense of like has really, really successfully transformed the consciousness of people in India to this sort of like...

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unbelievably unhinged right-wing fascist version of like hindu supremacy that hasn't happened here right you know it's worth knowing that the rss which is his brown shirts like has four million people in it yeah yeah right like i mean you know it has million they have millions of brown shirts right like ice is having trouble hiring 12 000 extra agents in a in a continent of 400 million people

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the current administration's demands on free speech?

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you know, a merger that's being discussed by the FCC at the moment. Well, what we've seen, though, we have seen a lot of that sort of craven capitulation. But what we've also seen is when we fight, we win. Now, I'm not trying to be a Pollyanna about this. What I'm trying to say is the demands that are being made by this particular administration are actually

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so far beyond the pale that based on our legal regime as it currently is, when we fight, we win. And so I think it is very worth reminding people that however imperfect the law is, the current state of the law forbids much of what this administration is doing. And it is actually worth standing up to it. There are other groups of people similarly who are not related to Antifa.

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10122.677 - 10143.585 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

And one of those groups is posters, like including boomers who are on Facebook and Twitter making jokes about how the right is so hypocritical. And those people are getting targeted. And I would just gently remind everyone that the First Amendment does still exist and that the solution to repression is not self-censorship, but courage.

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And also, as I have said many times, including to you on this program, discretion is the better part of valor and not everything needs to be said on the Internet. So maybe think about it before you post something that you would not like to hear read back to you by a humorless prosecutor.

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Then we have these other groups that are engaged in exposing law enforcement, which I referred to a minute ago.

Chapter 8: How are different groups being targeted under the current political climate?

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And I think the groups that are, you know, exposing ICE are definitely going to be targeted, have already been targeted for that activity. But it sort of remains to be seen how that can happen while also protecting Canary Mission.

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Then we have groups that are being perceived as or identified as Antifa, who are the people who are like doing food not bombs and community gardening and cooperative bookstores and prisoner letter writing, all of which are extremely First Amendment protected activities, and all of which are not only likely to be highly surveilled, are already highly surveilled.

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10203.989 - 10222.713 Robert Evans

And this is the group of people who I think are actually probably most used to this and best prepared for it and also might be really hard to prosecute effectively because they're not doing crimes. And, you know, like the NGOs that we were talking about, the biggest point of exposure for all of these groups is likely to be financial.

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10223.014 - 10234.418 Unknown

We can certainly anticipate that the state is highly interested in looking at all of our bank records to the extent that our bank records exist with all the money we have. Right. Right.

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10234.398 - 10241.085 Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford

We're all handing around the same stack of 20 singles to each other.

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But hey, you know, wire fraud. What I can say is that, you know, something like a bail fund and, you know, community support funds do need to be very cautious.

10251.755 - 10279.266 Robert Evans

That has already always been the case. And this is a really good time to hire a CPA to go over your books and to make sure that you have kept really meticulous records. To make sure that if you have raised money for something, you have only used it for the thing that you said it was going to be used for. And this is, once again, something that largely is a feature of far-right organizing, right?

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I don't know if you remember, but Steve Bannon was actually prosecuted for wire fraud because he was raising money to do something.

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Build the wall.

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