Chapter 1: How did Jeffrey Epstein influence microtransactions in video games?
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I don't know, Andrew T. I just don't know. How are you? I'm okay. I just ate the top half of a tomato, and I actually feel pretty energized. Best half of a tomato, to be honest. Like, the bottom half of a tomato, that's for chumps.
Idiots, really.
Stem side. You gotta nibble around the stem. Gotta nibble the stem, baby. I'm always saying that. That's my motto, baby. Nibble the stem, you know? No stem! You put it on t-shirts. That's right.
Stem out!
Wow. Andrew, where can people find you on the internet before we get into our episodes for today, where we continue the tale of Jeffrey Epstein birthing the modern world, man birthing the modern world? Thanks, I guess. I don't know. Andrew T on social media.
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Chapter 2: What role did Brock Pierce play in Epstein's plans?
Ew. Yeah. Which gives you an idea of how a lot of his relationships function. We're talking about him and Pierce, but he had a number of famous dudes who he had similar relationships with, where it presumably starts with him feeding them women, but they also, you know, push people his way, right? That's how a lot of this certainly functions.
It's sort of just like this low-rent frat house shit, where you're like... Right, right, exactly. And they talk about it that way, right?
Yeah.
They don't talk about it like we're doing a secret criminal enterprise. They talk about it like dudes talking about a hot chick at college, except for the chick is 30 years younger than them, right? Yeah. And they met her fucking because Gillen Maxwell spied her outside of a high school or something. I don't know. Yeah. Oh. Ew. It's gross.
Also in 2012, Epstein continued to gather influence in the world of video games. He started emailing regularly with Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick. Actually, it may have been earlier in this. We don't know exactly how long he and Bobby were in regular contact. The emails show at least as far back as November of 2012, which is in that month Kotick visited New York.
But they had been friends previously, right? We know the two planned to meet in person during that November 2012 trip. And we know that Epstein even tempted Kotick to come a day earlier by saying, hey, if you show up early, you can hang out with Woody Allen. Ew. Oh, boy. Well, I'm on board. Who doesn't want to hang with Woody Allen? I mean, look, at least these guys' morality is consistent. Yeah.
Nightmare. The first time I saw Woody in one of these, I had a moment of freak out. I was like, oh, God, is it Woody Harrelson? That would really bum me out. And it's like, oh, no, Woody Allen exists. It's got to be Woody Allen, right? Yeah. And it is. It is Woody Allen. What's interesting to me is that Epstein brings up Woody Allen other times, right?
Like when he's talking with Elon Musk and he's trying to convince Elon Musk to hang out one Christmas. He also brings out Woody. Woody Allen's going to be there. It could be you and me and Woody Allen partying together. So he seems to think this is like a big get for a lot. Like this is maybe if I sweeten the pot with Woody Allen, this rich, famous guy will want to hang out with me.
I mean, to be fair, Manhattan is basically what these guys are trying to aspire to, like at all times.
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Chapter 3: How did Epstein's connections impact the gaming industry?
Yeah, it's less of a grand because, you know, Epstein isn't the guy making this stuff. He's just kind of talking to people who will be owning the companies that own it about what he how he wants to see it used. Right. Right. And I don't think Epstein's not engaged in a cohesive plot with a bunch of other rich guys who destroy education.
I think he just sees this as beneficial and a better way to do society. Right. And I think part of why he sees it is that, like, he doesn't like or respect the a lot of current people in this. Yeah. Who are doing this job. Right. And I, you know what? And I guess like the vision versus the execution is what, right. That's what ice is.
Ice is the vision and the execution of that vision, which is right. And he's, he's just kind of got, and he's talking with his other rich friend. Cause he's an, he's, and he's an idea guy, right. That's Epstein's whole, whole brand. Um,
So he goes on in this essay to say that the real issue is that today's with educational games is that today's video games just don't try to teach stuff we care about. And it's unclear who we is. I think he's referring to we as in like people like you and me, Bobby, like smart, rich guys care about quote, right?
The best scheme I've come up with so far is to use the X prize or something like it to co-opt the existing video game industry. You want to skip convincing educators and parents about this stuff and just go straight for the kids. Ew. I mean, I guess... Just get him addicted. To be fair... That's what he's saying.
Yeah. Not that this is a good use, but probably one of the least sinister uses of go straight for the kids Jeffrey Epstein has ever... Yes, yes.
This is... Yeah, right? Like, grading on a curve, this is... Although you say that... Let me continue. Because as soon as he says you want to skip convincing parents and teachers, just go straight for the kids by making a game that gets them addicted... Then Epstein provides his own suggestion for like what an educational game might look like.
And he suggests a game that would teach a player how to read and pronounce Japanese kanji. Quote, imagine you are looking at a door in a video game. It has some squiggly symbols printed on it. Little munchkins walk up to that door and say, konnichiwa. The door opens and they are greeted by a hot princess with big tits and a thong. The door closes in your face.
You are going to fucking learn to read and pronounce kanji. But that's why I'm like, they're so dumb. I just can't believe we're ruled by these folks. There's the line between, I'm not saying Jeffrey Epstein controlled all of this as the puppet master, but he had a lot of ideas that he helped to seed in powerful people who then took those ideas further.
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Chapter 4: What were Epstein's views on educational video games?
One, the government doesn't like it. Money laundering, money transmitting, aiding and abetting all types of crimes. Two, all transactions are arguably taxable and therefore extra tricky. The Bitcoin guys came to see me early in the process and made it clear they were all willing to go to jail for their ideas. I'm not. There is a way to do it, but it turns the Bitcoin model on its head.
Talk to you soon. This is argument for Tether, right? But what's interesting to me in that is him saying, the Bitcoin guys came to see me early in the process and made it clear they were all willing to go to jail for their ideas. We know he's in touch with Gavin. We don't know who else necessarily. I mean, we'll talk later. There's other guys that Bitcoin is attached to, but...
This is some more evidence, at least that he wants other people to think he's really maybe he's lying about this. Right. But also, we know he was talking to Gavin. We know he's in touch with a number of these guys, and we know that they're talking ideologically about what this means to each other. So I don't really think this is a lie. This seems consistent with other things we have evidence of.
Right. And it's further evidence that Jeffrey is an influential person in this period of development for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Right now, obviously, That doesn't mean that he was like making big final decisions on Bitcoin, but it means that he's got some influence with the people doing it, right? And there's no reason for that, as we'll talk about.
In 2014, Epstein helps Brock Pierce ink a deal with Noble Bank to create a Puerto Rico-based company that would act as the real money bank for Tether, right? Like this is the actual bank that's going to provide the cash that supposedly backs up this stable coin.
This further establishes Epstein as a foundational figure in the history of crypto because Tether, as I noted, is a very significant cryptocurrency. And Epstein, not only is he advising Pierce in the beginning stages of Tether becoming a thing, but he helps make a deal with the bank that acts as like the backing for Tether. He's important in this, right? Yeah.
And this is particularly the stage of crypto development he's a part of is not the initial stage where you have these guys, like he talks about, who are willing to go to jail for these weird libertarian ideas they have, right? You don't have to like or respect what they see to be like, oh, a lot of these people were true believers.
At least they're believers.
Right? Yeah, they really wanted to weaken the power of the state and the Federal Reserve by decoupling currency from the government. Right. And that's they were willing to go to prison for it. There are guys like that in the early history of crypto.
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Chapter 5: How did Epstein's investments shape cryptocurrency?
Quick poll. Like, do you think that they never learned where the money came from or who they had to keep happy?
Or they wouldn't. But that's the thing. It's like. Like, I think these people are like, oh, there wasn't like a direct like meeting. He just did it for nothing.
He just did it for nothing. Yeah. And it's like, no, he did it because he wanted a benefit. Yeah. There's just ways to communicate what you want. I know there's a degree which this is less satisfying because I can't say here's what he did specifically to influence the development of crypto.
I just know that he put himself and spent a lot of money to be in a position where he could influence the development of crypto, which means he was doing fucking something. Right. And even Bitcoin Academy couldn't entirely polish this turd. The files show Epstein to cozy up to crypto figures.
In 2014, he reportedly invested in Blockstream via Joy Ito's fund, though back clarifies Epstein had no direct or indirect ties to the company. Emails reveal Epstein pitching digital currency ideas to a Saudi advisor in 2016, but zero evidence exists of him touching Bitcoin's code. His real skill? Name-dropping Satoshi's associates at parties. And this is true.
His real skill is name dropping famous people. But that skill has value because people know Jeffrey can connect you to influential and wealthy people and to funding, which is what allows him to influence people, including the people who guided the development of Bitcoin. It's just there's not a counter argument.
Jeffrey Epstein had the opportunity to significantly influence the development of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Right. It's that's what matters. These two episodes have been weirdly like he would be an odious person genuinely without the sex traffic.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Like if he was not a pedophile, he would still be a monster. Yeah.
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