Part Two: Mark Fuhrman: The Most Racist Cop, or Merely Normal Racist Cop?
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What was Mark Fuhrman's role in the O.J. Simpson trial?
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Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast about the very worst people in all of history. This week, we're on part two of our episodes on the recently and lamentably departed Mark Furman, who, now that we've gotten to know, you know, the mood has turned somber here in the Behind the Bastards studio, because Sophie and our guest for today, Joe Kasabian, are all overwhelmed with grief at the titanic That we've lost, you know, that there's no longer with us the great mind, the great heart, the great law enforcement officer, Mark Furman. You know, I don't know. It almost feels pointless to go on. Why are we here? I'm really happy, though, that in death that he can be, you know, the United States newest gender neutral bathroom.
That's right. That's right. Yeah. Find out where they put him somewhere in Idaho. Yeah. The only gender neutral bathroom in Idaho. Just if you see a grave in Idaho, piss on it.
How did Mark Fuhrman's past influence his actions during the trial?
It might be Mark Furman.
It might not be. No way to know.
You got to roll those dice.
Somehow our hearts will go on and on and on. Let's talk about this shit, Robert. Talk about the OJ trial. I'm excited.
Let's talk about we love the OJ trial. Again, folks, if you want to watch the documentary starring Ross from Friends as Robert Kardashian, you know, we'll wait for you. um but i can i can replicate the best parts just imagine ross from friends saying juice over and over again and you pretty much got the important bits you know i'm i'm really happy that ross from friends career could go so well he ends up doing brown face to play an armenian guy because surge from system of down one answers phone I do think what is really funny to me about that is they had Cuba play OJ, Cuba Gooding Jr. And it's a weird case of like the casting doing a lot of the acting because I can believe that OJ's evil because Cuba Gooding Jr.
is really evil. That's true.
What evidence did Mark Fuhrman find that linked O.J. Simpson to the crime?
It was a very like, oh, wow, a lot of the lifting's just being done by like, I know who Cuba Gooding Jr. is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They nailed it on that one. They just had no idea. Great idea.
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What controversies arose from Mark Fuhrman's testimony?
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So let's talk about Mark Furman. By the early 1990s, Mark Furman was a veteran LAPD detective who seems to have been somewhat popular and influential among like his, at least his clique in the department.
How did the LAPD's culture affect Mark Fuhrman's career?
Mark was known for making racist and sexist jokes and for his... He's got a hobby? What kind of hobby? Do you think a guy who joined the Marines because he idolized violence and never got over not getting to go to war and then became a cop? What do you think one of his hobbies is? What do you think he collects? Ugh. Shit. Stamps? I'm going to go with stamps. Ah, no. It's military memorabilia.
Oh, God. He owns Nazi memorabilia. I was going coins.
What were the implications of the Furman tapes during the trial?
I was going coins.
I know these guys. I fucking know these guys. I am a historian by trade, and every time you meet a guy, every fucking time, like, oh, I collect some military memorabilia. I'm like, it's Nazi shit, isn't it? It's always Nazi shit. It's always Nazi shit. And they'll always tell you, like you don't even have to come on to them because they're so defensive. And that's true with Mark. Because I noted, I read like two articles that had said that, oh, he got into like collecting like military, old military uniforms and awards. And so I'd wondered, but that's all they said. Like they didn't like say anything, like accuse anything. But in his own book, when Mark's saying, and like, yeah, I liked collecting old military stuff, quote, some of which happened to be German.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What was Mark Fuhrman's role in the O.J. Simpson trial?
0:00–1:07
2
How did Mark Fuhrman's past influence his actions during the trial?
1:07–2:14
3
What evidence did Mark Fuhrman find that linked O.J. Simpson to the crime?
2:14–2:39
4
What controversies arose from Mark Fuhrman's testimony?
2:39–3:22
5
How did the LAPD's culture affect Mark Fuhrman's career?
3:22–3:53
6
What were the implications of the Furman tapes during the trial?
3:53–4:42
7
What happened to Mark Fuhrman after the O.J. Simpson trial?
4:42–5:38
8
How does Mark Fuhrman's story reflect on systemic issues in law enforcement?
5:38–1:03:42