Part Two: The Origins of Terror in Palestine

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What events led to the British Mandate’s rise and the breakdown of communal harmony in post‑WWI Palestine?

Robert Evans 0:00
Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, normally a podcast about everything you don't know about the very worst people in all of history, where I read a story about a historical monster or some sort of terrible event to a guest who's coming in cold. This week, I'm sort of doing my best to not embarrass myself in front of a guest who knows a lot more about the subject than I do and also has lived through a lot of it, Dr. Donald Curran. Welcome back to the show. Thank you again for your time.
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 0:30
Thank you for having me. It is kind of cool that we have several like PhDs on staff because James Stout also. Also a doctor. Dr. James Stout.
Robert Evans 0:40
You know, I was declared a doctor by the state of New Jersey one time.
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 0:43
My brother's a doctor. That counts.
Robert Evans 0:45
There you go. Yeah. They don't let me prescribe anything, which really sucks.
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 0:50
I mean, he's an oncologist, so we're not even in the same like lettering system. But you know what?
Robert Evans 0:55
You don't have prescription abilities, do you, Dinah?
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 0:58
Unfortunately, political science does not have that.
Robert Evans 1:01
I would have gotten a poli-sci PhD if I could have got prescribed stuff.
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 1:06
Robert, this is not the time.
Robert Evans 1:08
I mean, it's always the time.
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 1:11
It's kind of relevant.
Robert Evans 1:12
Yeah, it's kind of relevant. Dawn, do you want to plug anything up front before we get back into the story?
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 1:19
There's the handbook on authoritarianism in the Arab world. That's out with Bloomsbury Politics. Open access so people can just Google and read up.
Awesome.
Robert Evans 1:27
Yeah, that sounds much better. One of the sources for this that I read, which was useful in some ways, is like the Oxford Handbook in the History of Terrorism, which is, again, very useful for certain things. And also, we're not going to get into this, but in 1946, I think it was the Irgun, which is like the militia associated with Bataar, which is like a right-wing Zionist group that has today become – like its descendant is netanyahu's party bomb the king david hotel and kill a bunch of people and the oxford it's really fun when you like read what the british said about it's an act of terrorism when you read what like everyone at the time said about it's an act of terrorism and then you read the oxford encyclopedia of terrorism they're like well because the targets were primarily governmental we can't call this an act of terrorism i'm like okay but if it had been like
Robert Evans 2:12
Arab nationalists who bombed a hotel, it would be terrorism, right?
Dr. Dana al-Kurd 2:17
It would have been terrorism, yeah. Right? Academics. I can't even. Right? I'm a good one. Let's just put that out there.
Facts.
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