Beyond Betrayal | The Making of 'The Crimes of Margo Freshwater'

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What is the story behind 'The Crimes of Margo Freshwater'?

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How did Cooper Moll secure the first interview with Margo Freshwater?

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Cooper Moll 2:07
I have the incredible Cooper Mall here with me today to talk about the crimes of Margo Freshwater. Cooper, thank you for joining me today.

What challenges did the team face while tracking down Margo Freshwater?

Cooper Moll 2:18
Thanks for having me, Dre. I want to talk a little bit about your new project, Glass Podcast's new project, The Crimes of Margot Freshwater, because we both had our hand in it in one way or the other, but it's something that I feel like we've dedicated a lot of time to. And I just am excited to share a little bit about this story with the Betrayal audience. For people that don't know, this is a story about a set of circumstances that led a woman to... go to Tennessee and meet somebody that resulted in a crime spree, a murder spree. And a number of people ended up dead. And so it's a complicated thing to approach because there are people that lost their lives. Walk me through because this story was something that at Glass we were developing for like a few years.
Cooper Moll 3:09
It was always percolating in the background. There was something gravitating me, my colleague Ben, my colleague Carrie towards this. Tanya, aka Margo, when you came onto it, you were meeting this material with like fresh eyes, like new, like you didn't know much about it. So tell me what it was like to interact with the story for the first time and what stood out to you that made you think, I need to be part of this?
Andrea 3:35
I think for me, I've always been interested in double lives or people who have to create another identity. And not always because they're being malicious or they're being deceitful, but out of necessity.

How does the narrative explore themes of identity and deception?

Andrea 3:51
And I've always been interested in the psychological toll of that. I mean, what is it like to keep up with all of the stories and lies and all of the different things you have to be able to carry with you in order to have that new identity be something solid, right? And that... that you never... How do you slip into a new skin like that? But this one was different.

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