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Better Offline

Monologue: Tokenpocalypse Now

26 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 23.253 Ed Zitron

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23.413 - 49.596 Ed Zitron

But now there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotb. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Joy 101, and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb is presented by CVS.

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51.044 - 71.995 Ed Zitron

My first guest is Terrence Hilton. Shakira. Luke and Yerin. We have surprises. Many surprises. Welcome to the Sweet 305 podcast where the group chat comes to life. What up? You're the only person I know that loves a yellow Starburst. It's lemonade. This is Sweet 305. Here, oversharing is encouraged.

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72.276 - 79.026 Ed Zitron

Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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80.002 - 94.365 Chuck Nice

This Black Music Month, the Questlove Show celebrates the visionaries shaping culture through sound. From country trailblazer Mickey Guyton to hip-hop icon Fab Five Freddy, the sonic genius of Thundercat, and the revolutionary voice of Chuck D. I want it loud.

94.525 - 97.69 Alexis Dietrich

So the timing might be off.

97.67 - 121.197 Chuck Nice

the sound might be muffled but what's going to come out of there is something that you can feel celebrate black music month with special episodes of the quest love show listen on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hello and welcome to the second of this week's better offline monologues i'm your host ed zitron

129.057 - 140.995 Ed Zitron

It's been a funny few weeks watching the little spurts of air coming out of the AI bubble. It's unclear when it'll burst, what will burst it, but really, even what's going on half the time, they just all seem to be running around like a billion Mr. Beans.

141.496 - 155.377 Ed Zitron

But I get the sense that everything will accelerate dramatically based on one or two big events, things that just knock the confidence of everyone. Maybe it's an AI company dying, or a funding round not coming together, or maybe it's a hyperscaler cutting capex.

Chapter 2: How are organizations reacting to the real costs of AI tokens?

696.587 - 713.525 Ed Zitron

Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guests is Paris Hilton, Shakira, Luke and Yerin, Samira and Gracie.

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713.945 - 715.747 Ben Zobrist

I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed.

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715.927 - 730.545 Ed Zitron

You have surprises. Many surprises. Welcome to Suite 305, where the group chat comes to life. What up? It's like a way to say, like, hello, friend. Hello, best friend. Hello, sister. What up? Look, I've never talked to anyone.

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731.566 - 733.388 Michael Rappaport

Except with my children. My children know.

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739.257 - 763.763 Ed Zitron

This is Sweet 305. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

764.519 - 775.212 Chuck Nice

This Black Music Month, the Questlove Show celebrates the artists, innovators, and cultural voices who continue to redefine music. We're sitting down with a groundbreaking country artist, Mickey Guyton.

775.752 - 789.008 Mickey Guyton

The way that the country music community accepted Post Malone versus Beyonce versus Shaboosie, like, those are very eye-opening things.

789.038 - 810.473 Chuck Nice

Hip-hop visionary, Fat 5 Freddy. Genre-bending musical genius, Thundercat. And the always legendary revolutionary voice, Chuck D. Yeah, we changed tires, man. I had 18 jobs before this became my occupation, man. I wrote for Bum Rush the show as a messenger. From unforgettable stories to deep conversations about creativity, culture, and legacy.

810.453 - 822.437 Chuck Nice

These are the voices shaping the soundtrack of Black Music past, present, and future. Listen to The Questlove Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of companies capping token spend?

1374.283 - 1383.553 Ed Zitron

There's a lot of people who understand postpartum depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Olympic champ Shawn Johnson revealed why she had no choice but to be a gymnast.

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1383.713 - 1393.112 B Hen

There was something about gymnastics that was intoxicating to me. It's given me a belief that we all have one of those treasures inside of us. We just have to find it.

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1393.453 - 1410.409 Ed Zitron

Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guests is Paris Hilton, Shakira, Luke and Yerin, Samira and Gracie.

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1410.81 - 1412.612 Ben Zobrist

I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed.

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1412.793 - 1428.536 Ed Zitron

You have surprises. Many surprises. Welcome to Suite 305, where the group chat comes to life. What up? It's like a way to say, hello, friend. Hello, best friend. Hello, sister. What up? Look, I've never talked to anyone.

1428.616 - 1430.258 Michael Rappaport

Except with my children. My children do know.

1436.144 - 1460.633 Ed Zitron

This is Sweet 305. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons as part of my Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1461.389 - 1472.084 Chuck Nice

This Black Music Month, the Questlove Show celebrates the artists, innovators, and cultural voices who continue to redefine music. We're sitting down with a groundbreaking country artist, Mickey Guyton.

1472.625 - 1485.984 Mickey Guyton

The way that the country music community accepted Post Malone versus Beyonce versus Shaboosie, like, those are very eye-opening things.

Chapter 4: How does the emergence of open-source AI models affect the market?

1845.008 - 1861.65 Ed Zitron

to actually work. They could make Microsoft Teams stable. Google Search could work again. Again, it would lower the growth. It would make the growth go down. And I think by the time these fucknuts realize that they have a real problem, they'll realize that they've pissed away the only opportunity they really had to change direction.

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1861.917 - 1878.794 Ed Zitron

Because had they started this era and just been like, we're out of hyper growth ideas. Now, they probably wouldn't say it in those exact words. They could have said, this is the era of experimentation. This is finding our new business lines. The next Google search and announced it like some World's Fair bullshit. I don't know. Maybe the markets wouldn't have been quite as happy.

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1879.495 - 1892.981 Ed Zitron

But they'd be happier than they're going to be at the end of this era. And I think in the end, it's frustrating to watch because logic and reason have gone out the window. But gravity exists, and this era will come to an end.

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1894.103 - 1916.029 Ed Zitron

And next week, we've got an awesome interview, something that's not about AI for once, with two writers from the Wall Street Journal about the greasy, nasty, freaky world of polymarket's influencer marketing, involving all sorts of weird shit, like ads that include fake bets on fake polymarket websites. Genuinely weird shit. And that'll be coming up next Wednesday. I enjoy hearing from you.

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1916.089 - 1938.147 Ed Zitron

Please email me. Is it on a... Easy at betteroffline.com. Jesus Christ, I messed up my own email. It's been a long few weeks, folks, but I'm loving hearing from you. Please email me. Please jump on the subreddit. I love to hear from you. I love feedback. I love feedback that's reasonable. If you send me a typo correction, I'm only going to get mad.

1938.708 - 1969.328 Ed Zitron

But I do love hearing from you, even the typo correctors, even the pedants. I love having the feedback. And I love you all. I love you all. I enjoy hearing from you, I enjoy being here and speaking to you, and I'll speak to you next week. Zitron out. Joy is essential and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101.

1969.609 - 1998.311 Ed Zitron

It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotb. If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Joy 101, and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb is presented by CVS. My first guest is Terrence Hilton. Shakira. Luke and Yerin. We have surprises. Many surprises.

1998.331 - 2018.301 Ed Zitron

Welcome to the Sweet 305 podcast where the group chat comes to life. What up? You're the only person I know that loves a yellow Starburst. It's lemonade. This is Sweet 305. Here, oversharing is encouraged. Listen to Sweet 305 with Lele Pons on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

2019.277 - 2041.068 Chuck Nice

This Black Music Month, the Questlove Show celebrates the visionaries shaping culture through sound. From country trailblazer Mickey Guyton to hip-hop icon Fab Five Freddy, the sonic genius of Thundercat, and the revolutionary voice of Chuck D. I want it loud. So the timing might be off. The sound might be muffled, but what's going to come out of there is something that you can feel.

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