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Chapter 1: What inspired Ingrid Rojas Contreras to become a writer?
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Chapter 2: How did Ingrid's migration experience shape her identity?
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Chapter 3: What role do curanderos play in Ingrid's family history?
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Welcome to this episode of Bibliotequeando. This is your host, Ricardo Lugo, as always, at Bibliotequeando en las Redes. Today I bring you this conversation with Ingrid Rojas Contreras, which will be in audio version on the different platforms of the podcast. On YouTube it will be in video version. You can get the link both in the description of the podcast and in the internal biography.
But Ingrid, we have discussed her. In this podcast, I summarized her first novel, La Fruta del Borrachero, which told the story of this family in the midst of the conflicts of Colombia in the 80s, 90s, guerrilla, paramilitaries, of course, the drug trafficking, Pablo Escobar. Something that she lived and that's why she ends up in the United States eventually.
And we will talk about that with her, but trying to connect her with her ancestors, with her history, the history of Latin America, which is very complicated. She writes her second work, The Man Who Moved the Clouds, which is a work named after Pulitzer. It challenges the concepts of political identities, it challenges the concepts of national identities.
We will talk about her experience with amnesia, her family history, her journey as an immigrant and, of course, the books, the writing as such, her creative process.
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Chapter 4: How does amnesia influence Ingrid's writing and perspective?
So, without much more introduction, here we have Ingrid Rojas Contreras. Well, Ingrid, thank you so much for coming to the podcast. Here a lot of people already know your work, because as I mentioned, I summarized your book, The Fruit of the Drunkard, about a year and a half ago. I wanted you to tell people a little bit, if we're going to start without amnesty in that aspect.
You had a very strong experience in your migration process, like all migration processes, I think they are all in their own style. But I want you to try to connect that with how Ingrid becomes a writer. At what point does she decide, I'm going to write and tell her story to a certain extent.
Sí, muchas gracias por la invitación. Muy contenta de estar contigo acá. Pues mi familia y yo nos fuimos de Bogotá en los 90 cuando yo tenía 14 años. Y estábamos tratando de huir de una serie de eventos que nos pasaron.
Chapter 5: What themes are explored in 'El Hombre que movía las nubes'?
A mi papá lo secuestraron y también lo dejaron ir como en una...
en una de esas revuelcas de esas historias que uno dice, eso es inventado, pero cuando a él se lo tomó la guerrilla, lo tuvieron una noche, y al siguiente día lo llevaron a conocer como al comandante de la guerrilla, y en el momento en que mi papá entró en ese cuarto, se dio cuenta que el comandante de la guerrilla era un amigo de él de primaria, y entonces los dos se...
Latin America.
Yes, yes. It's like when you say that sometimes what happens in reality is that you can't improve with fiction because it's already more surprising than what you can imagine. And my sister and I also had a kidnapping attack. And as a family, we were feeling that we were very affected by the violence. And they called us to the house all the time.
And then, at that moment, we decided... We felt the violence very close. We decided to leave and we went to Venezuela. I think that that moment of going to Venezuela was for me like the first... La primera instancia en que yo pensé en la escritura. Porque antes me había gustado mucho, obviamente, leer los libros, todo eso.
Pero cuando fuimos a Venezuela, una de las cosas que mis papás nos dijeron fue que no fuéramos a contarle a nadie que estábamos huyendo de la violencia.
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Chapter 6: How does Ingrid define magical realism in her work?
Entonces, en ese momento en Venezuela, había muchos colombianos que iban, cruzaban y estaban allá huyendo de la violencia. Y a veces conocíamos como venezolanos por la calle y nos decían, ay, es que ustedes son de esos que están huyendo. Y nosotros decíamos, no, no, no, nosotros no. Venimos porque a mi papá le salió un trabajo. Entonces teníamos como una historia oficial.
Pero me marcó mucho ese momento como de no poder contar lo que habíamos vivido porque era como ese presentimiento de que en Venezuela no se iba a tomar bien. Y bueno, mirando ahora como Colombia también ahora tiene como muchos... mucha gente venezolana que viene buscando refugio. Y también vemos como el mismo comportamiento de la gente, que es como este odio al inmigrante.
Incluso cuando hay muchos colombianos que han vivido esa violencia y saben muy bien de qué es, o sea, qué significa huir de una circunstancia desastrosa. But it was in Venezuela that I started to... I think it was because I couldn't tell that story of what had happened to us and what we had been going through, that I started to write it. So I started at that moment to write.
I had like a notebook. I wrote in English because...
Chapter 7: What challenges does Ingrid face as a Colombian author in the U.S.?
mis papás no hablaban inglés, entonces no lo podían entender. Y en ese momento fue cuando empecé, como pues sí, viviendo en Venezuela, hablando español, español mi primera lengua, pero en ese momento fue cuando empecé a escribir en inglés.
I, with the .01% of talent, but I have that same problem of... I like to write sometimes in English. Well, I moved here to the United States at 18. So I have a... There are certain experiences that you had in English and it seems that your brain processes them in that language. It's weird, it's strange to think about it. But two things you said.
One, so writing was like a kind of refuge for you at that time. As far as immigration is concerned, I remember seeing that change because I had visited different parts of Latin America and to say Venezuelan was something exotic, let's say it like that, it was something strange.
Now I have to clarify that I am visiting, I did not come to stay, or something like that, you feel a certain vibe that is not always positive.
Like you, why did you come here? Yes, yes, correct.
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Chapter 8: How does Ingrid view the representation of Latin American identity?
Who invited you? And that you started... I think Isabel Allende was the same. When Isabel Allende fled from Chile, she started writing in Venezuela. She didn't want to write... It has nothing to do with Venezuela. It was simply that she went to Venezuela and that's it. But it was that trip of a kind of escape to express what she had lived.
In her case, her uncle was the Chilean president and Pinochet and all this. But... We didn't know at the time that the safety we sought had a cost. For those who don't know you, where have your works gone? What was your cost?
Well, my mom came from a family of curanderos. Her father was a curandero, her grandfather, her great-grandfather, all curanderos.
Can you quickly, sorry to interrupt you, but explain to people who may not know what a curandero is? Because I think that we, Colombia, Venezuela, know very well what it is.
Yes, a curandero is someone who knows about plant medicine, Habla con los espíritus. A veces son tradiciones indígenas mezcladas con tradiciones hispánicas. Y sí, ¿qué más? Hay hueseros, hay curanderos que acomodan huesos. Hay todo un mundo de curanderos. Pero mi abuelo hacía, lo que él sabía era la medicina de las plantas. Entonces él hacía remedios, tenía su
su consultorio en el pueblo en Colombia, donde mi familia es, que es en Ocaña, y la gente del pueblo venía como con sus dolores, con sus problemas. A veces sufrían, haz de cuenta, depresión o de instabilidad mental. También pensaban que los estaba persiguiendo un espíritu, también podía ser, o también podía ser que querían
to get pregnant and it didn't work or that they wanted to have an abortion. So my grandfather was the person who received all those requests from the people and received them. So I think that when we moved and then I moved to the United States, Pienso que como familia estábamos buscando como más y más seguridad.
Yo pienso que es como cuando uno está en el medio de la violencia y uno como vive esas experiencias, uno se obsesiona con, o sea, ¿qué tan seguro me puedo sentir? ¿Qué tan seguro puede ser como lo que me rodea? Y yo pienso que al yo mudarme eventualmente como a Estados Unidos, es como la... Cierto, como la seguridad que tiene como más certeza que hay.
Y también hay un costo, porque entonces uno pierde, yo pienso que nosotros empezamos a perder como la conexión, esa de que estoy hablando, de los curanteros y de esas tradiciones. Porque hay como una, cuando uno se, o sea, Hay veces por ejemplo que mi mamá me viene a visitar y ella quiere hacer algún tipo de remedio
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