Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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If you suddenly find yourself in a Nazi concentration camp, what would you do? Do everything possible to survive? Help others? And what if to do those two things you have to collaborate with the enemy? These are the questions that Leo Sokolov, the tattoo artist of Auschwitz, made in this novel based on real life.
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of the Ashwitz tattoo artist, but what I like about this book is that it also talks about the moral debate of whether the main character of the book did the right thing or not. The story is basically that Leal Sokoloff becomes the main tattoo artist of the Ashwitz concentration camp.
Remember, or those who don't know, each person had an identification number and the Nazis tattooed that number on the prisoner's arm. A way of, to a certain extent, carrying a kind of account of the prisoners and at the same time taking away their humanity. It was just a number and that's it.
The message of the novel for me is that you have to be strong in moments of crisis and see how to get out of the most difficult moments. Leo Sokoloff, who is the main character, always had small goals during the novel to keep him alive. We will go into details soon, but at the same time, to be able to survive, to be able to help others, he had to ask himself very strong moral questions.
I collaborate, in quotes, with the Nazis. I'm going to work for them. I'm being part of the system, tattooing the prisoners. If I say no, I'll die. But if I tattoo, I can help others in a certain way, and we'll see how.
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Chapter 2: What happened to Lale Sokolov when he arrived at Auschwitz?
And well, the answer, as always, is propaganda, right? The Nazi government was very intelligent in that way, in a way, of course, evil, but they were intelligent in washing people's brains. At this time, they said, the propaganda, and you can search it on the internet, they are quite...
absurd to see them now, but at the time people believed that they were going to have better salaries, we are going to give you a lot of food, you are going to have a better home, you are going to have a stay in an exotic place, so to speak, in Germany for six months.
And many accepted for different reasons, people who were not doing well economically within the Soviet Union, people who were looking for
better opportunities and they considered this to go to Nazi Germany that seemed at that time Hitler sadly or rather for the luck of the modern world he was winning the war that is something that sometimes we forget thank God it was not like that but he was winning the war and at this point a lot of people are afraid they know that sooner or later Hitler will be the owner of everything good or bad it was not like that but they consider maybe if I collaborate with the Nazis it is something better for me
Of course, prisoners' letters began to arrive in these concentration camps, supposedly, saying, hey, no, this is not what they promised us, this is horrible, don't come. And Hitler again finds himself with the problem that he needs more labor. The solution was quotas. the Nazi regime began to implement quotas to these countries.
Each country had the power to choose who they were going to be, but they had to give a certain amount of prisoners to the labor camps. One of those countries was Slovakia, and this is what happened to Leo Sokolov. That's why he's in this labor camp. He made the sacrifice because they were going to take his brother, but his brother was already married.
Leo Sokolov is Jewish, his brother was already married, he had a son, and Leo said, I don't want you to go there, I'm going to go to work. And that's how he ends up on this train on the way to the Auschwitz concentration camp. Of course, he doesn't go on a train sitting alone in a first-class seat.
He's in a wagon packed with hundreds of other prisoners, most of them, of course, Jews, where no one knows what's going on. And for the same reason, Leo Sokolov, remember, he thinks he's going to a work field. He dressed elegantly. He dressed in a suit, with a tie, with a shirt. He was a studious man, a man of good family, he spoke five or six languages, and he felt that
that it was important to give a good image, but on the way from Slovakia to Polonia, it was three days at the time, and he hasn't been given water or food in all this time, there is when he realizes that his job is not necessary to have a suit on.
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Chapter 3: What moral dilemmas did Lale face as a tattoo artist in Auschwitz?
And he of course hears the screams, people coughing and everyone dying. And he traumas him, he breaks him a little physically, he starts to vomit, he faints. But little by little we realize that it is not so much the emotional trauma, which of course is part, but it turns out that Leo Sokolov has contracted typhus, that deadly disease of the time, which was very common in concentration camps.
In fact, it was the disease that ended up killing Anna Frank. When he wakes up, he realizes that he has been unconscious for many days. And an old man, this is important, an old man who presents himself as Pepin, who was a Frenchman. He serves him, helps him breathe, little by little he recovers him. And Pepin is what they call the Tattoo-weir, who is the tattoo artist of the concentration camp.
He is one of the prisoners who is in charge of tattooing the prisoners when they arrive in Auschwitz. He explains to them... to Leo Sokolov that a group of prisoners of Pavilion 7, where Block 7, where he sleeps, they were taking care of him. When they saw him thrown, they were going to burn several bodies that had come out of the gas chamber.
And among those bodies they had thrown him because they swore that he was dead. Leo Sokolov was so bad that he looked dead and the Nazi soldiers had thrown him this pile of bodies that they planned to burn.
But Aaron, that same man who made friends on the train, who was one of the first men he meets when he enters Auschwitz, saw him and he knew he wasn't dead and begged several soldiers to take him out. The soldiers didn't listen to him, but Pepin saw that. And Pepin, as he was a capo, he was one of the important people, that's why he was like that.
He wasn't a capo of a block, but he was a tattoo artist, so he had a certain power. He took advantage and took Lel out of the pile of dead. Not because he cared about Lel, but he said that if Aaron is begging the Nazis... that saves you, it must be that you are a good person, you are someone who is worth saving and in this moment of so much evil it is difficult to get people like that.
So, for this reason, Leo Sokolov is saved, that they burned him alive, in truth, he probably was not going to feel so much faint, but he was about to die in this situation and you will see in the story that this man has nine lives. But the sad thing about this is that Aaron, for trying to argue with a Nazi soldier, they ended up killing him.
And Lel finds out about this, and of course it makes him very sad, it affects him a lot emotionally, but his idea of, well, I have to get out of here alive, because if not they're going to kill me like they did to my friend Aram. And at the same time I have to pay the debt.
And here is when he really begins to realize that not only do I have to see how to take care of myself, but I have to see how to take care of others. Because I am only alive because others took care of me. So he starts this trip now in Auschwitz to pay off the debt and to try to help the Jews, the other prisoners, as much as he can.
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Chapter 4: How did Lale Sokolov manage to survive in the concentration camp?
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Now, Leo Sokolov, luckily, suddenly finds himself as someone privileged, he has a new room, he no longer has to be in block 7, he has to sleep in block 7, but he spends most of the time in a private room that has a small room, he is isolated from the other blocks, he is going to receive additional meals,
But because of his experience, because of what happened before, he doesn't want to take all those privileges, he grabs all the extra food, gives it to people in block 7, starts hiding it to ration it through the days under his mattress, etc. Let's say that his plan is to keep the secret of the fact that he has more food than the others.
He doesn't want to tell the others that he has more food than the others. He simply wants to tell them that I brought them food. And that's it. He doesn't feel comfortable, really, in what is happening. These luxuries that are out of the reach of the prisoners in this field... puts him in a situation where he feels more guilty still, that he is really making a deal with the devil.
I think it's not like that, I think it's not his fault. And I think he's doing the right thing. If I were in that situation, I would like to think that I would do the same, to help others with the few, in quotes, luxury, in quotes, of course. Having one more ration of bread is not a luxury as such, but in this field of concentration, it is.
Now, this officer, Baretzky, who is the very young officer of the Nazis, is a detestable person. To a certain extent, it is seen that he is mentally bad, he has an unstable character, every time he makes uncomfortable jokes, both to Leon, who is Lel's assistant, and to Lel. Many times he hit Leon and threatened to kill him, just for fun.
But he was the officer who was in charge of him and he was a kind of political protection. If Baretzky protected him, he could help others even more. One day, he is touching people and a woman comes to him that he considered very beautiful. He looks into her eyes and basically fell in love, love at first sight.
And he asked Baretzky, the Nazi officer, if he could help him a little with her, to see if he could look for her in the bunker of the women and so that they could both be seen. And I think this is a shocking impact on the book because one always thinks in these concentration camps, with reason, in the bad things, the horrible things that happened.
But who would think that two people could fall in love in a concentration camp? Such a rare idea for me, right?
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Chapter 5: What role did love play in Lale's life during his time in Auschwitz?
I saw photos of several of these experiments in Dachau when I went to that concentration camp and it was horrible. One of the studies they did, and I apologize if this is too graphic for someone, but they placed, they were trying to analyze the effects of altitude on the brain of the human being. They grabbed a Jew and cut off, let's say, the upper part of the head, the skin.
And they could see his skull. They opened his skull, they were drugging him so he wouldn't faint, they opened his skull. And they sent him in a plane with a Nazi pilot towards the highest point he could get and they turned him around, etc. And then they went down and then they saw the changes in the brain. And then they left him there and they let him die. Horrible, scary.
I remember that I couldn't believe it. to reach that level of evil. We don't always know about this, what we have seen through this story. A soldier who shot without reason three men who were doing their business. Or Baretsky shooting the three more. Or gas chambers.
All those things, not that they were good, not that they were correct, but to a certain extent they were less evil than this, and that's why I think Mengele, Dr. Joseph Mengele, and it makes me angry to call him doctor, but he was a doctor
is for me worse than many of the other Nazi officers including Hitler and Hitler is the guilty one of course, I'm not taking the blame away from him, he started all this but I repeat, in terms of his evilness and cruelty, I think Mengele has a special place in hell but going back to the subject, he was very fascinated, Josef Mengele was very fascinated with the twins
He always carried out experiments with them. A famous experiment was that he grabbed a twin who was infected with typhus and then he made a blood transfusion from that twin to the other twin to also infect him and see how they died differently and then change different medicines, not medicines, different drugs to see the effect.
There is a man named Miklos Nisli who was a prisoner's doctor in Auschwitz and he remembered an occasion in which Mengele personally killed 14 twins in one night because he was injecting chloroform directly into his heart. This man was the worst of the worst, and that was part of the Nazi ideology, this idea of seeking racial superiority.
When he started to get to the concentration camp more frequently, Leo Sokolov realizes that he is someone important and tries to never look at him, tries to never, let's say, have contact with him because he knows that it can end very badly. For those who ask, just in case, to make a parenthesis, Dr. Death, the Angel of Death, Joseph Mengele, sadly could never be punished.
He escaped to South America. He died in Brazil. We later discovered that he had a Paraguayan passport under another name and he really died at his old age. He never suffered what he should have suffered. I think that man had to be tortured. I'm sorry if you don't believe in torture, but that man had to pay for the things he did.
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Chapter 6: How did Lale build a smuggling network in the concentration camp?
Another thing is to do it, right? If you know that your whole family can die. That's why it's not an easy decision and I really admire people who did receive people like Yita in this case. This family gave her food, gave her a little more clothes and managed to send her to the part that she was already occupied by the Soviets so that they could escape.
And from there she managed to leave in a truck with some truck drivers to Slovakia, to Bratislava. So she ends up, let's say, with a happy story. She manages to escape before she was sent to another concentration camp, before she might die in another concentration camp. She managed to escape, took a risk at the moment she had to take it, and came back home. But Leo, he is still in prison.
He arrives in Mauthausen, Austria, where there is another concentration camp that is still under the Nazi regime. And that's why I admire the mental strength of Leo Sokolov. I can't imagine being in that situation. You've been in the Auschwitz concentration camp for two and a half years, the worst of all. Living what you lived, seeing what you saw.
And suddenly when it seemed that everything was going to end, they take your wife away, they send you to another concentration camp and basically now you have to do everything again. See who you know again, how do you get out of here alive, don't kill me. And it's admirable how he arrives at this new camp in Austria with the positive mentality, saying that this can be done again.
And what he does is that he realizes that there is a guard. who is very impressed with Leo Sokolov's ease of speaking so many languages, and specifically German, as he speaks such fluent German. Through that, he gets certain, let's say, status, a little more respected.
His inspection goes a little unnoticed, because the prisoners were inspected before arriving to see if they had anything hidden and things like that. And Leo, as people were talking to him normally and they didn't think he was a bad person, He had hidden three diamonds under his tongue, which they never discovered.
Always skillful, as I wanted to say, always on the lookout, always very careful, Leo Sokolov. That same guard, who was impressed with his German, offers him a treat, he says, look, I like it. What if I take you to a concentration camp in Vienna, which is a little safer, calmer, more relaxed.
Vienna, of course, nowadays is a very beautiful city, but at that time it was a bit chaotic, but inside it was a capital, it was much more protected and much more visible. Auschwitz was away from the world and more atrocities could be committed in Vienna.
so he is sent to that field and when he arrives he realizes that this is his third concentration camp by the way when he arrives at that camp he realizes that the guards They are even indifferent. He doesn't know it, but in large part I think there is a resignation that we lost the war, no matter what we do to these Jews, etc, etc. And he realizes that he is famous.
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