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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Before we begin today's episode, we would like to start by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land on which we're recording, the Gadigal people, and pay our respects to elders past and present. Hi, I'm Hannah.
And I'm Sarah. Welcome to Big Talk. Big talk, deep dives into the big news stories that you've heard of, but you don't know all the serious and salacious details about.
We revisit the most shocking headlines of the past that have shaped the world we know today. And in this episode, we're looking at Scientology. But first, let's do a recap of what we learned in part three. Everything starts with David Miscavige.
He was born in 1960 into what was, by all accounts, a pretty normal American family, until his father, Ron, was introduced to Scientology through a business contact.
After watching a demonstration of Dianetics and being told it would cure everything from headaches to chronic illness, Ron was all in. He took his asthmatic and allergy-prone son, David, in for auditing. And 45 minutes later, David's ailments were completely gone. And that was it. The whole family was converted.
Within a few years, they'd uprooted their lives and moved to Scientology's headquarters in England. While everyone got involved, it was David and his twin sister Denise who stood out from early on.
By their teens, the twins were already auditing adults, and by 16, David had joined the Sea Org, eventually landing in the Commodore's Messenger organisation. He was working directly under L. Ron Hubbard at the time when the church and Hubbard himself were starting to unravel.
Because while David was rising up the ranks, things at the top were getting messy. Hubbard's son Quentin, once the intended successor of Scientology, died by suicide after being subjected to the religion's internal disciplinary system.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of celebrity involvement in Scientology?
That's all just surprised me at this point anyway. So Mimi quickly kind of recognises in Cruise this like religious devotion, like untapped potential there basically. And it's obviously not just her that takes notice. David Miscavige also does. David knows opportunity and he tells the church, this guy is so famous, he could change everything. Miscavige is very keen to wine and dine Tom Cruise.
He spends time personally taking Cruise to lunches on Hubbard's ships, going dirt biking and shooting clay pigeons. They're new best friends, basically. But as Cruise becomes more important and ingrained to Scientology, Mimi's own significance diminishes, both to Scientology and to Tom Cruise.
And then when Mimi is kind of no longer this gatekeeper between him and the religion, the church allegedly decides that she's not the right partner for this celebrity asset, their most valuable one, and then influences Tom Cruise to end their marriage.
Isn't that wild? Considering that she was Scientology royalty and she is an actress. Yes. It's wild to me. And as alluded to before, almost immediately after a separation with Mimi, Tom meets our girl, Australian legend, Nicole Kidman. And David Miscavige goes, jackpot, this is exactly what we need.
Not only a famous person to represent the church, but a real celebrity power couple in the headlines. And so they also turn their attention to Kidman too, and they pull out all the stops. The couple move into a villa in the gold base. Holy shit. Yeah. And Scientology even reportedly spends over $200,000 on a tennis court there for the couple.
Wow.
And then they very graciously offered the two some housekeepers, cooks, nannies, all of whom said that they're like happy to work for free. What they don't know is that this isn't coming from like the good of Miss Cabbage's heart. The house staff have a separate responsibility. Like their job is to listen and report back what they're seeing and what they're hearing between Nicole and Tom.
Allegedly, of course.
Yeah, we don't, again, all of this is from reports we've strung together. We don't have confirmation. But I guess then the question is, like, why? What are they looking for?
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Chapter 3: How did John Travolta's early career influence his connection to Scientology?
Oh, yeah, sorry. Javier Bardem, sexy. Also politically sexy. He also played the scariest role of all time, though I will say I can never separate him from the movie No Country for Old Men. He plays the most evil character of all time, but he's in it.
Incredible actor. He is, he is. Anyway, back to Cruise and Cruise. Their relationship is like rather uneventful compared to Cruise and Kidman's relationship. Although it does follow a similar arc, the two meet and they fall in love and Cruise starts learning more about Scientology, but in the end doesn't get too involved, which was much to David's anger.
And then because Penelope Cruz won't commit, the church encourages Tom to break up with her, which he then does. And the breakup is reportedly pretty amicable. The two remain friends. They're even spotted having dinner over a decade later together. And now we are three relationships down, two more to go on our Tom Cruise saga.
Okay, let's jump forward to 2004. Tom obviously wants another wife. Tom wants a wife. Tom wants a wife. Farmer wants a wife. Tom Cruise wants a wife. Scientologist wants a wife. OT3 wants a wife. Season four. And after three relationships ending to differing religious beliefs, that's a light way of putting it, he wants a wife who this time is a proper Scientologist.
So Miss Cavage obviously has a plan. He gets Shelley to begin auditioning women Scientologists from around the globe.
It's genuinely a reality TV show.
Fucking Love Island, but it's Scientology Island. Yeah. Trying to find the perfect fit for Tom. None of them are told why. Instead, they're told that they are being given the honourable role of auditioning for a new training film. And then a slip some questions about Tom Cruise while they're there. Like the Bachelor meets Big Brother. Yeah. Over a year passes, no luck.
Tommy, that's the longest you've been by yourself, mate. In the meantime, I love this, he just picks up Sevilla Vergara, right?
He tries. He tries dating Sevilla.
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