Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What was the Supreme Court's ruling on Trump's tariffs?
Those are always available to him. To be clear, there's prerequisites for those tariffs to be implemented. There's limits on those tariffs. There's limits in duration and amount. So we'll see what he does and we'll assess. We brought 58 lawsuits in less than 58 weeks against the Trump administration for repeated lawsuits. illegal conduct.
And so we will assess whether any of his actions going forward in the tariff space are lawful or not. And if he breaks the law again and hurts California again, we'll take him to court.
Well, I'm just sorry, just real quickly, though, Rob, I mean, looking at the dissenting opinions and particularly the Kavanaugh opinion, who explicitly, in his words, said the president did have the authority. Does that become the basis for the Trump administration to move forward with something even under the construct of IEBA?
Well, Aipa's off the table. So he can no longer use Aipa to impose tariffs. He tried. He lost. Aipa doesn't mention the word tariffs. It's never been used in nearly 50 years of its existence to impose tariffs.
But yeah, the Kavanaugh dissent did sort of set forth a blueprint that Trump might want to pursue in terms of other statutes that do provide the opportunity for him potentially to implement tariffs. But the But the point I was making, and the majority makes this too, is that those other statutes don't give full discretion to implement and impose all the tariffs that he tried to impose under IEPA.
And he tried to impose tariffs against every single one of our trade partners under IEPA. Those other statutes have limits. They have prerequisites. They have limits in duration, limits in amount. So he may take action using those other statutes, but he will be limited.
All right. Have to leave it there. Really appreciate your time. That is California Attorney General Rob Bonta.
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