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Carl Weinberg Talks Supply Chain

09 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 8.024 Karen Moskow

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37.291 - 39.794 Paul Sweeney

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40.075 - 66.15 Tom Keene

He is magnificent. The essay at High Frequency Economics is a yield-based analysis of the economy. It is what Carl Weinberg did at Lehman Brothers for decades. And he was just thrilled that he could join us here this morning. Carl, I love your research note in that you say the labor market's going to hover, but GDP may be light. Link the two together into the first part of 2026.

67.042 - 86.119 Carl Weinberg

Hi, Tom. Good morning. Thanks for having me back on the show. It's been a while. You know, we're at full employment. That's my assessment. Anyhow, others might not agree with that. But even at a four and a half percent unemployment rate, which I think, by the way, is going to go down in this morning's report and we'll get a revision tomorrow. downward to the figure that we saw for November.

86.599 - 103.663 Carl Weinberg

But when we're at full employment like this, the economy has trouble growing. The only way it can grow is either by immigration or getting more people in the labor force or by increasing productivity. So productivity was really strong in the third quarter. The economy grew well.

103.643 - 125.584 Tom Keene

but there's no promise that those productivity gains are going to continue into the fourth quarter so gdp growth may be capped if you will by the economy being at full employment right now i i really i'm more focused folks on the soggy gdp outlook of selected economists mr myron wants six rate cuts one and a half percent down down down is that a carl weinberg theme

Chapter 2: What are the biggest risks facing the supply chain in 2026?

238.137 - 261.141 Carl Weinberg

Against that, Fed Chair Powell still commands probably three votes on the FOMC out of the 12. And that's the swing, if you will, between those who will ease and those who will settle. So I don't really know where they're going to go on this. But what I'm hoping to see as we move through the year is a change in the perception that payrolls are slowing because the economy is weak.

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261.181 - 271.992 Carl Weinberg

That's where the Fed is right now to payrolls are slowing because the labor market is tight and there just aren't enough workers to hire to keep payrolls growing quickly.

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271.972 - 287.702 Tom Keene

Carl, we've got some time left here. I want to get you on much more in 2026. You should see where he lives. I mean, I took the Nash Rambler once. I had to put the chains on it in the winter to get up there. It's up the Taconic. It's like God's country. It's beautiful.

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287.682 - 303.852 Tom Keene

Carl, in your note, and I got eight ways to go here, Carl, but I got to go to your legendary reputation on the Pacific Rim and on crisis. Are your radar up in 2026 for China or other currency or debt upsets?

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305.097 - 312.066 Carl Weinberg

I'm on the alert for a lot of things coming from China this year that we've never seen before.

Chapter 3: How does the tight labor market impact GDP growth?

312.727 - 341.188 Carl Weinberg

If you read the IEA's Critical Minerals Outlook, I believe is the proper name of it, China sits at the root of every supply chain for every critical material for every Western economy. No exceptions to that. So, all right, this is a weapon that Xi tested with rare earths last year that he's testing right now again with Japan. And Xi has things that he wants.

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341.228 - 346.677 Carl Weinberg

And I think he's going to asking for them with leverage. I think that's the risk for China in the new year.

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347.258 - 353.768 Tom Keene

Carl, not enough time. Thank you so much. Carl Weinberg with this high frequency economics, just definitive research report.

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353.748 - 355.09 Stephen Carroll

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381.029 - 388.722 Stephen Carroll

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Chapter 4: What role does productivity play in economic growth?

470.083 - 480.145 Tom Keene

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