Finnish President Alexander Stubb Talks Greenland
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Are things going to settle down? The president threatening to impose additional tariffs on some European allies supporting Denmark while he pursues Greenland. The Finland president, Alexander Stubb, joins us now for more. Mr. President, good to see you. Nice to see you. Thanks for always making some time for us. I would never traditionally start a conversation like this with a head of state, but given the news flow and the headlines and the pictures of texts we've seen over the past few days, I have to get a better understanding from you directly. I understand you were on an exchange with the President of the United States where the President almost explicitly linked his failure to win the Nobel Priests Prize with a more assertive stance on Greenland.
Did that actually happen?
Well, yeah, I mean, we do message a lot with the president and sometimes I message together with the prime minister of Norway, Jonas Garstøre. So, yes, the response was as has been reported. And this is what frank diplomacy is all about. This is quite normal in our engagements behind the scenes. And it's good that we have these conversations.
You'll have to forgive me, but for many people, they don't feel that it's normal to connect the failure to win a prize with a more assertive stance over someone else's territory.
It is normal to have direct talks. Of course, on the Greenland issue, I disagree with the president. I think now what we need to do is to bring down the temperature. We need to find an off-ramp and probably create some kind of a process which will strengthen Arctic security. And sort of at the end of the tunnel, I wish we could have a NATO summit in Ankara where we all agree on a new Arctic security structure. I come from an Arctic country. I come from a country which has one of the biggest militaries in Europe. I come from a country which has the best know-how in Arctic defense. So these are the types of things that we need to work with the alliance, including the United States.
President Trump has been talking about Greenland since 2019. What makes it different this time? What does an off-ramp actually look like?
What recent geopolitical tensions are surrounding Greenland?
I think...
There's a short-term scenario here and there's a long-term. Short-term is to basically de-escalate the language. And I hope we'll see some of that here in Davos here today, tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow. And then the second one is a long-term strategic thinking on, okay, is this an issue of sovereignty or is it an issue of security? I hope that it is an issue of security. And then we start looking at how we can beef up security in the Arctic region Now, the latest conversations that I've had about this subject in the past two to three hours, this is how fast things are changing in the new foreign policy world, gives me a little bit of hope that we'll find a way.
It feels like a live negotiation. The president, a lot of the time, does come out with something very aggressive to get to an endpoint, which really is just a better deal. I liken this to NATO. At one point, there was reports he wanted to pull out of NATO, but really, at the end of the day, he wanted Europe to spend more. Is that how you view this, through that lens?
Well, first of all, the President of the United States has a capacity to deal with a multiplicity of issues at the same time. I mean, you only look at what's happened this year. Venezuela, Iran, Greenland, Gaza, the Peace Board, and many other things at the same time.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:43
2
What recent geopolitical tensions are surrounding Greenland?
2:43–5:03
3
How does President Stubb view Trump's interest in Greenland?
5:03–7:17
4
What diplomatic strategies are used in U.S.-Finland relations?
7:17–8:30
5
What is the significance of the Arctic security discussions?
8:30–10:03
6
How does President Stubb perceive the role of NATO in Arctic security?
10:03–12:46
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