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Rep. Mike Lawler R-NY Talks Government Shutdown

14 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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38.316 - 50.946 Jonathan Ferro

I'm happy to say we can extend the conversation with New York Congressman Michael Orler. Congressman, welcome back to the program, sir. The good news, the military looks like it's getting paid. Can you just walk us through how you would characterize current negotiations?

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51.044 - 80.123 Rep. Mike Lawler

Well, the Democrats refuse to do their job. You know, Hakeem Jeffries talks about getting permission. The reality here is that AOC and Zoran Mandani and the progressive left are who's driving the ship here. Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries have been petrified to do their jobs. And so they shut the government down for fear of a primary challenge from the left and

80.103 - 93.076 Rep. Mike Lawler

and to show their progressive base that they're, quote unquote, fighting back, resisting, you know, President Trump. And it's fundamentally wrong. They are holding the American people hostage.

93.757 - 121.051 Rep. Mike Lawler

House Republicans passed a clean, continuing resolution over three weeks ago to keep the government funded, to pay for all of these critical programs, to ensure that our troops are paid, to ensure that Border Patrol agents are paid. And yet Democrats have voted over eight times against the clean CR. And we'll see what Chuck Schumer and Senate Democrats do today, but it doesn't look good.

121.732 - 129.263 Rep. Mike Lawler

And, you know, when I was in Washington last week, I went and confronted Hakeem Jeffries to his face.

129.243 - 153.327 Rep. Mike Lawler

and pointed out that if he's serious about tackling the health care challenges in our country sign on to the bipartisan legislation that would do that and he refused so this really is not about health care it's not about a specific policy outcome this is about democrats showing their progressive base uh... that they're fighting back against president trump Meanwhile, look at the juxtaposition.

Chapter 2: What are the current negotiations surrounding the government shutdown?

253.24 - 272.346 Rep. Mike Lawler

But Democrats just pounding their fists on the table, stomping their feet and demanding their way is not the way to govern. You don't hold the American people hostage. And by the way, don't take my word for it. Go look at every quote from Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi, and name the Democrat.

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272.626 - 284.203 Rep. Mike Lawler

They all previously believed that you don't use government shutdowns to exert policy outcomes. And now fundamentally, they have changed their view because Donald Trump is president.

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284.303 - 299.329 Annemarie Hordern

Congressman, also being held hostage right now is data, which the financial services industry, the Fed, we all rely on. You are on the Financial Services Committee. Do you think the White House should deem the BLS data, like the jobs report we're still waiting on, essential?

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299.68 - 322.549 Rep. Mike Lawler

Look, obviously, that information is critically important for the Fed and others to do the work that is required. But this is the fundamental challenge. They're trying to figure out how to pay for, for instance, our troops, which is vital. They're trying to figure out how to pay for critical programs like WIC and SNAP.

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322.529 - 345.138 Rep. Mike Lawler

And so these are the very difficult decisions that any administration is put in because of the incalcitrance of my Democratic colleagues here. Look, I've been opposed to government shutdowns regardless of who has tried to do it. I criticized my Republican colleagues last Congress when some of them wanted to shut the government down over Joe Biden's disastrous open borders.

346.259 - 366.579 Rep. Mike Lawler

While I agreed with them on the merits, the fact is shutting the government down wasn't going to solve that problem. And the same applies here. What the Democrats are doing is creating more problems. The Fed, to your point, needs to be able to do its job. They need to cut rates. They need the information with respect to jobs, for instance. That is critically important.

366.659 - 385.307 Rep. Mike Lawler

So, yes, we want them to be able to get that information. The fastest way for all of this to come to an end, the fastest way to ensure that government does its job is for my Democratic colleagues to go back to Washington today in the Senate and vote yes to open the government up and pass the clean CR.

385.287 - 399.65 Annemarie Hordern

The White House has also taken aim on projects in New York City, $18 billion worth of New York City infrastructure projects. You are in a swing district and you are facing a lot of challenges. A lot of Democrats are lining up to try to flip that seat come the midterms.

400.05 - 409.405 Annemarie Hordern

Are you concerned about potentially the pushback you're going to get from things like this, billions of dollars being frozen right here in New York?

Chapter 3: How do Democrats' actions impact the government shutdown?

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