Special Coverage: A Conversation with Secretary of State Marco Rubio
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On Apple, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to special coverage from the Munich Security Conference. I'm Francine Lacroix. Now, Marco Rubio, of course, the U.S. Secretary of State, has reassured European partners that the end of the transatlantic alliance is neither a goal or a wish. He speaks with our editor-in-chief, John McEvoy.
Thank you, Francine. Mario Rubio, Secretary of State, thank you for talking to Bloomberg. You've just made this rather remarkable speech where you talked about the destiny of Europe and America always being intertwined. You talked about an alliance which has stretched all the way culturally from Michelangelo to the Rolling Stones, a first, I suspect, for a Secretary of State, but a culture that has bled and died together. But the very common theme of your speech was the need to share the burden, the need for Europe and America to do things together, which was slightly different from the vice president last year. Were you kind of offering a carrot where perhaps he was offering a...
I think it's the same message. I think what the vice president said last year very clearly was that Europe had made a series of decisions internally that were threatening to the alliance and ultimately to themselves, not because we hate Europe or we don't like Europeans, but because what is it that we fight for? What is it that binds us together? And ultimately, it's the fact that we are both heirs to the same civilization. And it's a great civilization. And it's one we should be proud of. It's one that's contributed extraordinarily to the world. And it's one, frankly, upon which America is built. From our language to our system of government to our laws to the food we eat to the name of our cities and towns, all of it deeply linked to this Western civilization and culture that we should be proud of.
And it's worth defending. And ultimately, that's the point. The point is that people don't fight and die for abstract ideas. They are willing to fight and defend who they are and what matters and is important to them. And that was the foundation he laid last year in his speech. And we add on into this year to explain to people that when we come off as urgent or even critical about decisions that Europe has failed to make or made, it is because we care. It is because we understand that ultimately... Our own fate will be intertwined with what happens with Europe. We want Europe to survive. We want Europe to prosper because we're interconnected in so many different ways and because our alliance is so critical.
But it has to be an alliance of allies that are capable and willing to fight for who they are and what's important. Do you see a parallel?
You seem to see a parallel between the Cold War, which I think I would argue that America beat the Soviet Union because it had a common idea and it had allies on its side. You're now in a struggle with China. As people say, you've often been a hawk on that subject. You're in a struggle with China. Do you think you absolutely need Europe to be able to
Yeah, I would say two things.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:24
2
What reassurance did Secretary Rubio provide to European partners?
5:24–7:05
3
How does Rubio describe the historical ties between Europe and America?
7:05–10:03
4
What is the significance of shared civilization values in the alliance?
10:03–14:30
5
What parallels does Rubio draw between the Cold War and current geopolitical challenges?
14:30–15:33
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