Earnings Roundup: Alphabet Beats on Cloud Sales, Tesla's Profit Disappoints

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What did Alphabet report about its cloud revenue and AI investments?

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Tim Stenovec 1:04
We really want to go all in on Alphabet and Tesla. We've got a great team effort to do just that. In the house with us is our Mandeep Singh. He is, of course, Bloomberg Intelligence, excuse me, head of global technology. We've also got our Keith Naughton, Bloomberg News auto reporter. He joins us here in our Bloomberg Interactive Brokers studio along with Mandeep. And then we've got Ed Ludlow, Bloomberg Tech host out there in our San Francisco bureau. All right, where to start? I do want to start with you, Mandeep, only because I feel like the AI trade is so important. What do you make of it?
Mandeep Singh 1:37
I mean, great print. I think overall the results were great. Cloud, 82% growth. It's a $100 billion run rate business now, which is phenomenal for a company like Alphabet, which was really consumer-focused. But backlog is probably very, I would say, the whisper number was higher simply because when I look at Microsoft's backlog number, it's higher than Alphabet's. And given it's growing 82%, And it has got Anthropic as one of its main customers of Google Cloud. I would have expected that to go up. I mean, Anthropic is signing deals left and right.

How is Alphabet’s cloud backlog growing and why is Anthropic important?

Mandeep Singh 2:15
So why is it not showing up in the Google backlog number?
Carol Massar 2:18
Gemini models now process 22 billion API tokens per minute. And the Gemini app has 950 monthly active users. Contextualize that, Mandip, for us compared to OpenAI and to Anthropic.
Mandeep Singh 2:31
I mean, it's great, but look, Gemini has an attached rate because of all the other properties that Google has, the search, YouTube. So for me, until and unless they talk about usage of Gemini really taking off relative to the last quarter, It's hard for me to extrapolate that into Gemini really taking share away from a chat GPT. And all these companies are reporting very high MAU numbers, but it's really the usage that counts. And to my mind, the $950 million is a reflection of the high attach rate that Google has because of the distribution through search and the operating system and browser.
Tim Stenovec 3:10
Ed, we're going to come to you in just a moment on both, but I want to bring Keith Naughton in. Tesla, it is a lot of technology in that one. So as we talk about all of this, what do you make of some of the numbers that we got from Tesla? Well, that's
Keith Naughton 3:22
a big mess. $0.33 versus $0.51. And I get that Tesla is no longer really a car play. It's
Tim Stenovec 3:28
an AI. It's an AI play. Is
Keith Naughton 3:30
it? Well, here's the problem with that, Tim. The thing is that to fund that $25 billion in CapEx they have planned for this year, they need to sell a lot of cars. So they did sell well in the second quarter, but yet we're coming in low. You saw the gross margin is also below expectations.
Tim Stenovec 3:46
Yeah, that was
Keith Naughton 3:47
lower. So they
Tim Stenovec 3:47
need to make money. 16.8 versus 19.4. They went
Keith Naughton 3:49
negative cash flow. We expected that. They didn't go as negative as was expected. So that's good. But they did go negative cash flow. So, you know, you got to generate revenue and profit from the car side of the house in order to pay for the robotics and the AI and the cybercats.
Carol Massar 4:05
Yeah. Ed Ludlow, come on in on this conversation. Is Tesla, in your view and based on the folks you talk to, is it still a car company?
Ed Ludlow 4:12
Yeah, the street wanted to see Tesla spend a lot of money, more money than they are spending currently based on the trajectory of CapEx, to make some progress on robo-taxis and robotics.

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